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Post by one50 on Oct 14, 2011 8:45:42 GMT 8
I'm wondering what the view looks like on Breakwater point towards the southwest. please post what you have or next time anyone is out that way, can you please snap a few for me. I'm wondering what the view would look like of the 503rd approach from that point of view.
Thanks Dan
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Post by fots2 on Oct 14, 2011 16:52:32 GMT 8
Hi Dan, If you were on Breakwater Point looking southwest, you will see the South China Sea straight ahead. A bit to the right your view is obstructed by the Corregidor coastline towards Geary Point. To the left is more open ocean. To the far left are Caballo Island and the coast of Cavite. You cannot see Mariveles from Breakwater Point. Map of the view from Breakwater Point. Standing on the top of the cliff at Breakwater Point and looking southwest. I hope this is what you are looking for. Here are a few more photos. Standing on the top of the cliff at Breakwater Point and looking back towards Bottomside. You can see Malinta Hill and the whole tail of Corregidor Island. On top of Malinta Hill looking across Black Beach towards Breakwater Point. The South Dock is at bottom left. Standing on the South Dock looking at Breakwater Point. (x5 zoomed view)
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Post by okla on Oct 15, 2011 3:35:38 GMT 8
Hey Fots...Many thanks for this "mini-fix". I was wondering when the next Fots Fantastic Foto Tour would be forthcoming. I was noticing the first, small symptoms and lo and behold you have come thru again. This "quickie" will suffice till a larger one comes forth. I noticed the notation on the chart designating "wrecks". I am assuming this to be the location for much, if not most, of the scuttle effort of the small USN fleet and other vessels. One wonders if there is any kind of accurate chart depicting what vessels lie where? This query is probably more in Battery Boys domain, but there is always the possibility that 'ole Fots could come thru once again. Cheers.
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Post by fots2 on Oct 15, 2011 13:44:26 GMT 8
Hi okla,
Somewhere in the past I did see a map that had some wrecks labeled but of course I cannot find it now. A search on the net did not turn up anything useful either.
I suspect you are correct in those wrecks being war related. Perhaps others can help here.
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Post by fireball on Oct 15, 2011 21:42:15 GMT 8
There was the section of the chart previously posted at:
Re: Navy Tunnels still exist in Mariveles 2010 « Reply #18 on Oct 25, 2010, 10:29am »
Chart 4255 - about PHP 400: Mariveles harbour is at (i think) 1:30,000, with the rest of the approaches to Manila at a smaller scale.
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Post by one50 on Oct 15, 2011 22:58:03 GMT 8
Thank you very much Fots. Like Okla mentioned...Thanks for the fix Here is my interest in this area. Captain Itagaki was near breakwater point "observing" the amphibious fleet... apparently ignoring the air totally. With in the first few minutes of the first troopers on the ground, Capt. Itagaki was killed on the southern edge of Topside near break water point. To observe the amphibious fleet but ignore a double column of some 30+ planes approaching from the southwest....I just don't get it. The amphibious fouce came around the west side of Corregidor in front of break water point. We Capt. Itagaki able to actually see the amphibious force at that time? The first Paratroopers on the ground landed about 8:33am while the first amphibious force landed about 10:30am 2 hours later. I think Capt. Itagaki was dead before the amphibious force left the cost. So my question to ponder. Was Capt. Itagaki watching Mariveles from Breakwater point area to observe amphibious forces? Or did he actually go to break water point to watch the Paratroopers fly over head to land on the air field as would be the most logical point for a paratroop landing. Capt. Itagaki was then caught in the open when the troopers jumped on Topside...and surprised the Capt. basically with his "pants down". Do you see what I'm trying to figure out? Dan
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Post by fots2 on Oct 17, 2011 22:06:16 GMT 8
Hi Dan, You have noticed an anomaly in history that some of us here have no answers for. We have discussed this over a beer or two and still found no consensus due to lack of information. Many things are wrong with this story. Where was he killed? When was he killed? Also, I have found no information as to whether his body was recovered. As a guess only, I wonder if the paratroopers scurried up to Topside to join their buddies immediately after this little firefight leaving the body where it fell. Japanese troops who occupied the area on and off for a the next couple days may have drug his body to a nearby cave which ended up sealed during the fighting or simply buried him. At the moment it seems like we will never know what happened for sure. One more little thought for you. The two lines of C-47s did not fly over Breakwater Point and there are much better places to view the airplanes than that. (On the map notice the paths of the C-47s and the approach of the amphibious craft).
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Post by EXO on Oct 19, 2011 16:45:59 GMT 8
I was running through a series of images with Chet Nycum (G Co.) , working up the captions to photographs for a publication when we came to this image of Lt. Hewitt, Garrett, and S/Sgt. James F. "Speed" Reed on Mindoro, Feb 14, 1945. Chet recalled that he had been told shortly after the jump that 'Speed' Reed had landed in the Japanese CP and was killed in his harness. He recalled, "I always gave him the credit for exchanging his life for that of Capt. Itagaki, the Japanese Commander on Corregidor. He was the perfect example of a guy who could match the adage, ' Walk quietly and carry a big stick.' " So, I shall give to " Speed" Reed the credit for taking out Capt. Itagaki. Hearsay may be used under the "best evidence" rule. Chet later added that the credit given to " Speed" was widely held in the 3d Bn. Bless 'em All!
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