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Post by EXO on Apr 2, 2012 23:59:19 GMT 8
darthdract,
You are well to be offended.
Yes it is ridiculous that the minimum brainpower of minimum paid security guards now has a greater effect upon our individual liberty than do the terrorists that they are supposed to be protecting us from. I say time and again, "Who watches the Watchmen?" because this is a terrible effect worldwide, that the people we have hired to protect us have, in fact, become our lords and masters.
The greatest threat to us, are the people we've hired (or have voted for) to protect us.
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Post by The Phantom on Apr 3, 2012 4:35:08 GMT 8
What a tourist in the Philippines CAN'T take a picture of:
When Fots and I were visiting the Ermita area and taking photo's a couple of months ago I led Fots to the old U.S. High Commissioners pre- WW II home on Roxas Blvd. Where the trials of General Homma and Yamashita were held post War. Fool that "I" was, we thought we were taking pictures of WWII sites still in existence today.
I said Fots get a picture of the old High Commissioners House and Trial site. Before he could raise his camera a uniformed guard approached us and emphatically asked "What we though we were doing"? "There are no pictures allowed here!" We didn't get the chance to explain, realizing a hasty retreat to Intramuros was our best option at this point.
We walked towards Rizal park and another couple of these guards looked us over and asked where were going? We said Intramuros to take pictures, so they stopped traffic and we went to the Park Bayview and got a Taxi to Intramuros.
Fots thinks those guys work for the same company that guard our folks in Afghanistan and elsewhere. They were harsh, no nonsense guys, the kind I'd want guarding my Embassy.
it was Fots fault!, maybe not............
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Post by sherwino on Apr 3, 2012 18:46:23 GMT 8
Guys, I also experienced that kind of restriction. I was inside the old Quarantine station at Mariveles. I was taking some photographs of the ruins when a guard approached me and made me delete the pics. He said that their administrator doesn't allow it.
We see those sites with our eyes but no photographs? What is wrong with them?
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Post by darthdract on Apr 3, 2012 23:50:50 GMT 8
I guess we should create a separate thread so we can inform every one who wants to have a good photo walk which sites would allow Photo ops, and which sites are that allow some shots and those that are really strict. As an Amateur hobbyist this takes the fun out of Photography.
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Post by cbuehler on Oct 29, 2012 6:44:32 GMT 8
Hi Exo. regarding restrictions thats why I am hesitant to take the time to go to Ft.Abad even in the Streets at Ayala Ave. they forbid taking photos of buildings if it is a local taking photographs but they allow tourists from Korea,USA,Canada,Japan, etc, to take Photos with out permission and I really got offended by that. Ah, Pilipinas talaga! It is true as you say that we often get different treatment. But it goes the other way too. I usually have to send my driver or friends in ahead of me to make any purchases anywhere. As soon as they see me, the price miraculously becomes higher! At the Ayala museum they even have a foreigners only rate that is double that for Filipinos. Aba! Bakit ganoon! Pilipino ako e! At any rate, even though I am aware that the fort is there, I have never seen it yet. Thanks for the pics! CB
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Post by darthdract on Oct 30, 2012 15:43:04 GMT 8
Hi Exo. regarding restrictions thats why I am hesitant to take the time to go to Ft.Abad even in the Streets at Ayala Ave. they forbid taking photos of buildings if it is a local taking photographs but they allow tourists from Korea,USA,Canada,Japan, etc, to take Photos with out permission and I really got offended by that. Ah, Pilipinas talaga! It is true as you say that we often get different treatment. But it goes the other way too. I usually have to send my driver or friends in ahead of me to make any purchases anywhere. As soon as they see me, the price miraculously becomes higher! At the Ayala museum they even have a foreigners only rate that is double that for Filipinos. Aba! Bakit ganoon! Pilipino ako e! At any rate, even though I am aware that the fort is there, I have never seen it yet. Thanks for the pics! CB Oh Kabayan.. Sorry to hear that you have to go thru all that. I remember when my cousin who is a full blooded Filipino who was raised in the US Visited the Philippines Cab drivers would Scam him and talk behind his back as if he does not understand tagalog well bad for them cause my "Pinsan" Can understand Tagalog pretty well. I think it is really disrespectful to charge foreigners double than what a Filipino will be charge that is not good for tourism and definitely against the Filipino culture of Hospitality that we as people take pride. I would say that is un Filipino.
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Post by dmether on Aug 20, 2013 19:53:31 GMT 8
Finally found a picture of the front gate of Abad, taken around 1899.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Oct 5, 2013 18:48:49 GMT 8
Fort San Antonio de Abad has been preserved for the enjoyment of the Philippines and other people interested in history by: Former PRESIDENT MARCOS. Several people have contributed very interesting images about the fort. This URL was referred to before in this thread. The following images came from this URL: 69.3.176.210/binder/PH2012_FSAA.htmlI looked at those fine pictures again and I feel I got to point out the image about the plaque briefing the public that former president Marcos was behind the great renovation. On my exploration into the history and the preservation of this history I have learned that former President Marcos was also the driving force behind preserving the heritage of Corregidor and building the Defense of Bataan Mount Samat Shrine, for the people of the Philippines and all people interested in Liberty. I encourage you to look at those images in the above URL again, about 40, and here are 4 sample images from that URL: Z681-The plaque informing the public about the restoration of Fort San Antonio de Abad in 1974-1976. I believe it is located in the archway of the South Gate. Z682-The plan with the landmarks of the Fort San Antonio de Abad. Z683-A nice picture of Ft. San Antonio de Abad, east rampart and the south gate. Z684-Ft. San Antonio de Abad North Gate.
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Post by victor on Oct 6, 2013 12:29:26 GMT 8
I missed this thread the whole time. Thanks for such an informative post Tiyoalan. I'm glad the fort is well kept. This book (Neely's Photographs - Fighting in the Philippines), calls it "Fort Malate".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2014 11:49:06 GMT 8
I grew up just a block away from there, on M.H.Del Pilar Street. As kids, our dad would take us to Fort San Antonia Abad to play.
By the way, the gun tubes are from Corregidor Island. 100-Mllion Percent sure. The distinctive shrapnel damage shows up in an official US Army photo of these same gun tubes (photo shows 3 gun tubes) sitting side-by-side on the Mine Wharf on Corregidor.
I will post pics when I locate them among several thousands of color and B&W slides my Dad had, and scan them to JPEG.
Oh, and both tubes are still loaded. We informed the Central Bank that they were loaded, and the southernmost tube was turned 90*, and now actually points to the Philippine Navy Headquarters. We informed the PN about that, too! Hahaha! This information is valid and correct as of about 1992-95.
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