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Post by fots2 on Jun 6, 2012 19:59:03 GMT 8
dmether and chadhill,
That is interesting research you both have done. I remember walking at the eastern end of Denver Hill after I first saw the map of remains recoveries. It was a bit of a strange feeling to be standing exactly where men had died.
I have nothing to add to this except regarding the memorial that Chad posted, I have never seen this before. I do not see it in any of my photos. Where did this go to? Did the Japanese take it back with them during the time they removed their dead?
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Post by okla on Jun 6, 2012 20:43:05 GMT 8
Hey Fots.....I betcha you are correct. That would be a very logical thing for them to have done. If it had still been on "the Rock", you, of all people with your continual prowling, would have seen it, methinks. On the other hand, you may very well have opened another "Pandora's Box". Let us hope so. Cheers.
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Post by chadhill on Jun 11, 2012 6:43:19 GMT 8
Everett Perry's Ghosts of Canopus (p. 126) lists 21 Canopus sailors that were KIA on 6 May. Referencing ABMC and DPMO, I found that the bodies of 9 of the men were either never identified or not recovered. Seven of the men were from the 4th Battalion, which left the east entrance of Malinta Tunnel at 0430 for the firefight at Denver Hill. Although it is possible that there were fatalities from Japanese artillery fire along the way, it is more likely that these seven perished on Denver Hill. The other 2 sailors were from the 1st Battalion and likely died near the beaches opposing the Japanese landings. 4th Battalion: Abrams, Chester L., S2C, #3759708 Baldwin, Virgil K., MM2, #2659993 Cambron, John H. (N.?), SF1C, #3807115 Clark, Vernon F., SK2C, #3719278 Fuller, Orlan E., SM2, #3558787 Hartje, Lamar H., MSMTH1C, #3165745 Meyers, Paul C., AOM3, #2835055 1st Battalion: Allard, William F., S2C, #3214668 Brennan, Ralph J., RM2, #2126074 * * * * * Fots, here is another Japanese memorial I photoed in 1985. Again, I failed to notate where on Corregidor it was. The gun in the foreground has a mount or carriage in the distance behind it. I'm sure I've seen current pictures of this weapon but cannot place it... Japanese memorial on Mount Samat, 1985. The english words at the bottom say "Dedicated to those who died for their country. May they rest in peace". Japanese memorial on the beach, west coast of Quinauan Point, Bataan, 1986. Some accounts say there were hundreds of bodies on the beach after the battle. (see "Quinauan Point, 1986" thread)
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Post by chadhill on Oct 2, 2012 10:07:42 GMT 8
Happy birthday, dmether! Have two on me...
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Post by sherwino on Oct 2, 2012 14:38:47 GMT 8
happy birthday, david!
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Post by okla on Oct 2, 2012 20:03:38 GMT 8
Hey dmether....Have another frosty one on me. Happy B'day.
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Post by The Phantom on Oct 3, 2012 7:08:14 GMT 8
Performing a personal eye test...........
Some observations from earlier in the thread.
The photo of the Japanese Cemetery is across the road from our previous cemetery (which no longer exists in any form) above 92nd Garage Beach installations and next to their barracks.
The fella in the photo is standing near the foundation of building #924, 92nd (Philippine Scout) Garage. This foundation is still visible today, some of it covered with several gift shops catering to the Japanese trade. Japanese wartime money anyone?
The photo appears to have been taken through a tour bus window?
The real hill in the background is Denver Hill / ridge? (Not the reflected hill) It is the highest area east of the 92nd area Cemetery. The ridge runs at 175 ft. until he comes next to the middle of Kindley field.
I'm not sure if this was mentioned previously, probably..........
Seeing the chart of the grave registration locations of bodies near, and on top of Denver Hill, triggered a memory.
Last year? fots and I visited the top of Denver Hill and found many dug up locations. We found out later when we reported it to island authorities, that a tourist had come on the island with a metal detector. He had been informed to leave it in his room.
Apparently he hadn't. We did find several large gun parts in one hole they dug probably the day before we visited the site. Large parts possibly from the destruction of the guns in 1942? To big for them to get off the island.
So were these fellas, who cut a wide trail on Battery Denver, looking for the burial locations?
End of my eye test............
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Post by chadhill on Oct 3, 2012 11:02:37 GMT 8
Phantom, did you or fots take any photos of the parts found in the hole on Denver Hill?
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Post by fots2 on Oct 3, 2012 16:08:18 GMT 8
Hi chadhill, I only took a couple photos of the various metal items that had just been dug up and left on the ground beside the holes. The heavy sample seen here is a sheet of metal wrapped around an inner rectangular piece of solid metal. It is as long as you can see since I stood it on end for the photo. I also cleaned some dried soil off of it before taking the photo. My garden cutters are lying to the right for size comparison.
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Post by chadhill on Oct 3, 2012 20:12:22 GMT 8
You are amazing, Fots. I'm scratching my noggin with both hands trying to imagine what this unknown part may have come from. Here is a SWAG (see red arrow). Do you remember where on Denver Hill it was? I'll bet it sure set that guy's metal detector off big time- Model 1917 75mm
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