The corner of Calle Arroceros and Calle Conception Manila, Philippines
On a plot covering 4 acres. 30 long one story buildings, Spanish style, pointing toward the center of the property.
In 1920 it's name was changed from-
DEPARTMENT HOSPITAL P.I., to STERNBERG GENERAL HOSPITAL. In honor of Brig. General George Miller Sternberg, founder of Army Medical Corp. He served with distinction during the Spanish American War as Surgeon General. He was responsible for upgrading the sanitation and other Military Hospital systems.
The location of the Hospital is also described as near Intamuros and not far from the Pasig River in crowded Manila.
Where does that put the Hospital today, if any of it still exists?
Are those street corners still in existence?
Are the streets behind the City Hall of Manila, and is the three or four story current Government building there the remaining Sternberg General Hospital that was used by both the U.S. and the Japanese during WWII?
Does anyone have any past and current pictures of Sternberg Hospital?
Conception street is right where the building I am talking about is located behind the City Hall.
T.F. says the original Sternberg Hospital complex was made of wood and destroyed during the war. Not sure if it was rebuilt after the war. The building I'm seeing was prewar but of concrete construction. It was rebuilt by American forces in 1946 I think the plaque said.
Whatever the building was, it's worth some of your great photo's. The high pillared, inside, wide, hallways, open to the courtyard below. The entrance way etc.
Col. Matibag's Office building, (Tourist Bureau building), located in Luneta Park nearby, also would make for some great photo's.
Thanks again for your fine research, maps and photos.
Wondering if the G.S.I.S. building was once just part of the old Hospital complex of Sternberg General Hospital? or just another Government building in the Government complex across the street from the Hospital?
Not sure if its still the old G.S.I.S. building today........ but it is full of courtrooms still. I walked all the halls and stairways there a few years ago, you can feel the old world history.
The high ceilings and doorways with open-able glass windows above the doorway are still visible. Definitely pre air-conditioning construction for maximum airflow. Most of course closed off now and adulterated to make the rooms air conditioned. The building does look a little worse for ware but is well built none the less.
As I mentioned above, see the Dept of Tourism building in Luneta Park nearby for comparison. It's much bigger overall and in better shape.
Actually visiting and looking at how well built these buildings are, you can get a feel for how hard it was to get the entrenched Japanese out of them in 1945, when the building were fought for floor by floor and room by room in most cases.
The Manila Post Office is also a must visit in the area.
These old Government buildings, just outside Intramuros, had been rebuilt after the war but were severely damaged in 1945.
I will get fots to go on a tour of these buildings with me in the future, if he wishes, so we can get his photo eye involved in this historical area. Before and after photo's here would tell a story.
Hey Phantom.....I will await, with baited breath, the results of your "safari" with Fots and his "little pocket camera". His little "gadget" always produces magical work,etc not to mention his obvious talent at "aiming and shooting". I am surprised that you all haven't done this before now. Only in the past few evenings did I watch, for the umpteenth time, footage of the fighting/results of the 1945 liberation of Manila from the Japanese yoke. That city and its citizens surely suffered just as much as did the folks in Berlin/Warsaw and smaller cities in Italy (Cassino,etc). Sure, Berlin had more people and the Red Army had many more soldiers involved in the fight, but Manila, for her size, population,etc took just as severe a beating during the ground fighting. Yes, Berlin was bombed daily prior to the street fighting, but still was a formidable task facing the Red Army. I suppose one could argue who, Red Army troops or the Emperor's legions, committed the more horrendous atrocities on the civilian populace, but I would venture that the little men from the North would get the majority vote. Methinks, they had "nuances" along these lines that the Comrades hadn't conceived of as yet (1945). Looking forward to you two guys being on the loose with the little photo gadget of Fots, that does such wonderful work. Cheers. Postscript....I would appreciate you asking some innocent bystander to take a photo of you two. I would appreciate seeing what my benefactors look like.
Hey Phantom....I have long wondered if the baseball stadium is still in existence. The newsreel footage that I recently was watching depicted an American Sherman tank firing at Japanese troops in one of the "dugouts" and grandstands. Don't know if the dugout was the one on third base or first base line or whether that section of the grand stand was reserved or general admission, lol. It does seem to me that I once saw a post war photo of that revamped arena, but not sure. It's senility, don't you see?? The Army-Navy Club was mentioned in pre-war books and articles many times. Many galas were supposedly held there, I think, when a new ship arrived from the states bearing "new folks", both civilian and military. Do you know if MacArthur's penthouse still exists in the present day Manila Hotel? If so, that would have to be an interesting tour. I am sure that you and ole' Fots can handle all the inconvenieces and deliver some good stuff to us of the "great unwashed". Cheers. Don't forget that pic of you two guys.
I believe the baseball stadium is still in existence okla, think fots got some photo's of it recently?
Think Babe Ruth hit a home run there, the feat was written on the outfield fence in one of the old pictures ? ............................................... Alas, the Army Navy Club (which is right on Manila Bay, straight across Luneta Park from the Manila Hotel) that I saw a few years ago was worse for ware.
It now belongs to the Philippine Government?, and I think the upkeep is prohibitive, (it's a very old building in a tropical climate), as there are open windows where the air conditioners were removed, open to the elements with no effort to close them off.
The front grounds were fenced off and also in disrepair. Maybe it has changed now that was 2 years ago when I last visited.
You could go to the pool area then which is between the building and the bay. Some clay tennis courts near building and the pool.
They now have some open air restaurants next to the pool where you can pick a live fish from a tank and have it cooked for you right there. A popular place.
I was able to enter the Army Navy Club back in 2001 and was in awe at it's old world construction, lots of dark woods, magnificent staircase etc.
The Manila Hotel is of similar construction in rich woods, in the hotel's original old section. There is a massive addition attached to the north side of the original hotel.
Mac Arthur's old quarters in the penthouse were destroyed by the Japanese, on purpose, as the Americans and Filipino's attacked Manila. Lots of Mac Arthur's former possessions were still in his rooms but destroyed by fire as he discovered when he reentered the Hotel after it was retaken.
Mac Arthur's Penthouse complex is available for you to stay in okla, for only $6,000.00 a night! 2001 prices that is.
That was the price I was quoted in 2001 when I toured Mac Arthur's Penthouse and rooms for P1000.00.
A beautiful, statuesque Filipina took my friend and I on the tour. The rooms take up a large part of the western top of the OLD Hotel with a view of Manila Bay and the Harbor, north, south and west.
His rooms were fully air-conditioned, a real novelty at the time. No pictures, I know.......... there was a huge bed room, a large meeting room, with a huge mahogany table, thousands of books on the walls around this room.........and a living area with high backed leather chairs and expensive davenports in view.
My friend from my working days was on the tour with me and wanted a picture, his camera, of him sitting on Mac Arthur's bed.
I got the beautiful Filipina to sit next to him for the photo but he realized his wife would see the photo and got up AND RAN TO ANOTHER ROOM BEFORE I COULD GET THE SHOT! Yeah, I'm like that............
Even though Mac Arthur's original room and contents were burned up in 1945, the room was redone as close as possible to the original room and before he died, Mac Arthur return one last time to the Philippines and his family stayed in his old rooms one last time.
The Manila Hotel had been owned by American's for a long time, not sure when that stopped.........but recently it was up for sale and bought by a Chinese group? But there is a law in the Philippines that historical structures must remain in Philippine hands, so the purchase was overturned and it was bought by a group of Filipino's.
I took my father in law , I'm married to a Filipina now for 36 year, to the Manila Hotel a few years ago before he died, and he didn't like the place, saying that for to long it was only for foreigners and the rich and well connected. He had fought in the hills of Pampanga during the war and was buried with full military honors a couple of years ago.
Who stayed in Mac Arthur's rooms during the Japanese occupation?
Hey Phantom....Thanks much for the update to my questions. I had always heard that the good General lived like a sultan or potentate prior to the outbreak of war. But on reflection, that is what he considered himself to be or felt it was the image he must project. Probably thought that was what the orientals expected. Commanded respect, etc. or some such thing. He certainly thought he understood the Asian mind. I have my wonders about that. Maybe he did, may he didn't. As for the resident of the General's quarters....I gotta say it had to be the Japanese Commander. Maybe Yamashita for a time. Maybe Homma before he was recalled. I truly want to say it was Fots, but know that this wasn't possible since he was probably crawling around in some underground cavity,etc conversing with spiders and bats. Give me a hint.
Japanese Occupants (non permanent) of MacArthur Suite:
- Lt. Gen Masaharu Homma (on propaganda) - Premiere Hideki Tojo (on visit) - Field Marshal Hisaichi Terauchi (on visit) - Field Marshal Hajime Sugiyama (on visit) - Lt. General Tomoyuki Yamashita (may have stayed longer)
When Homma was inspecting Bataan, his chief of staff Lt. Gen. Masami Maeda was said to have used the suite, but I believe it was more of the club houses as he liked to play the game. He was replaced Major-General Takaji Wachi.
Hey Battery...Many thanks for the info. You always have the "poop from group" readily at hand. Certainly keeps me from having to dig it up on my own. Always appreciated. Cheers. Postscript...I hadn't realized that Tojo ever visited the PI. Seems that I learn something each and every day on the forum. I love it.
norm grossman: The Fall of the Philippines 1941-42 has always interested me and now at 67 years old and retired I have the time to surf the internet and find great website like yours to get answers to my questions on this subject.
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norm grossman: How can I post or upload photos on my posts that are off my computer and don't have URL links? Thanks
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EXO: Norm Grossman - most of us arrange our own third-party image storage. Flickr, or Photobucket are two in the market.
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Marine Niece: Can anyone tell me where the cliff caves on Caballo/Fort Hughes are located?
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Boy V: Hi Im Boy Villanueva loves travelling across the Philippines. I love searching American History during the WW 2. I came across the Villa Verde which inetrest me more. I have some photos of the new improvement of the road. and how can i upload it.
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tmayer: Test Platoon- First jump from airplane was on August 16, 1940. First mass jump from airplane was on August 29, 1940. September 16 ,1940 War Department authorized the 1st Parachute BN. October 2, 1940 document was amended to read 501st Parachute BN (i
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Marine Niece: Chadhill: Thank you for the sources! They've become part the story I'm writing about James's Marine service and his death. Do you think it's at all possible for me to recover my uncle's body and bring it home?
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chadhill: Marine Niece: Very possible. Call USMC Service Casualty Office to register as family member at 800-847-1597. They will want a DNA sample. See FAQ at www.dpaa.mil/Contact/Contact-Us. Be sure to request his Individual Deceased Personnel File.
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Marine niece: About 5PM 5/6/42, my uncle swam from the shelter of some Caballo cliff caves to help someone swimming from Corregidor. Returning, he was resting in the water by rocks when he was bombed and killed. Are there cliff caves east of the north dock near Fuger
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cbuehler: Marine Niece,
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cbuehler: Caballo Island is almost all cliffs etc. I have to say that a swim from Corregidor to there would be quite a feat even for an outstanding swimmer, given the distance, frequently rough water and sharks that were there.
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batteryboy: There were a number of natural caves along the steep and rocky shoreline of Caballo. Not that deep though. There is a slight slope from the shore line leading to Battery Fuger but I cant recall any natural caves when i circled the island.
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