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Post by mapmaster on Jul 12, 2009 15:57:40 GMT 8
Hi fots2
I seem to recall the discussion in January 2009 was about whether there was one hidden tunnel somewhere to the north of the two accessible Navy Tunnels - thereby matching the photograph taken by the Japanese photographer in 1942.
Well since then, more than that question has been solved. Your exploration and measurements have resulted in possibly the preparation of the first definitive plan of the southern portion of the Navy Tunnels since before 1942.
Regards
mapmaster
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Post by fots2 on Jul 12, 2009 17:11:48 GMT 8
Thanks for the comments. I look forward to such a map.
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Post by mapmaster on Jul 12, 2009 19:38:54 GMT 8
Re: Snake Pit
Hi Phantom
The snake pit is an old quarry that was in-filled with rubble during the 1945 bombing. It was re-quarried for the rubble later. Since then it has been one of the rubbish tips for everything from bottles and cans to tree branches. It has also been the dumping ground for sheet iron.
It looks like a haven for snakes, so in two visits to the Navy Portals, I have not wanted to hang around.
Regards
mapmaster
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Post by okla on Jul 12, 2009 22:33:02 GMT 8
hey fots...what if you had come face to face with the last, final japanese combatant waiting all these years in the largely unexplored navy tunnels for the return of the imperial rescue forces??? of course, he would be a minimum of 82 years of age so you probably could have "handled" him nicely, with minimal effort. your photos of corregidor,etc have been top notch and invaluable to many of us, but a pic of some doddering old fool of a fanatical japanese survivor of the 1945 battle would be your crowning glory in exploration of corregidor. doncha think?
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Post by batteryboy on Jul 13, 2009 11:08:05 GMT 8
Ok, guys, I think I stumbled something about the Navy Tunnels on the Rock including the Radio Intercept. I will leave you all in suspense until I finally confirm this lead of mine.
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Post by fots2 on Jul 13, 2009 13:40:53 GMT 8
okla, if I had turned around when I was alone and came face to face with anything, I probably would have a heart attack and die on the spot. batteryboy, sounds interesting…
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Post by fots2 on May 18, 2010 1:42:10 GMT 8
I thought I would add this in a “Navy Tunnels” thread. Above is a familiar view to many of you regular Corregidor visitors. It shows the intersection of the South Shore Road and the road going to Malinta Tunnel’s West Entrance. What is not usual in this view is all the dead vegetation on the lower slope of Malinta Hill. Most times of the year this area is thick with grasses and bushes. After seeing this I knew one more search for one of the missing Navy Tunnels might be worth the bother. I made two horizontal passes at different levels along the hill between the known Navy Tunnels and close to Malinta’s West Entrance. Mostly I found the usual junk of scrap metal, small pieces of broken concrete and broken glass. The remnants of a communication cable was the only thing unusual until I came across five metal pipes sticking out of the hill, all within a six foot radius. Two pipes are parallel with the level ground down below me. The other three pipes are equally spaced and stick out of the hillside at a 45 degree angle w.r.t. level ground. The pipes would be up above a possible tunnel entrance. Pipe diameters (inside diameters, estimated) 1 – 3 inch 2 – 2.5 inch 3 – 2.5 inch 4 – 2 inch 5 – 3 inch The pipes are labeled 1 to 5 in the following photos. I recorded a GPS waypoint for the pipes and forwarded the information to Mapmaster. He can place this location on his maps and determine how close I may be to one of the Navy Tunnels that were visible in the 1942 Japanese photo. They might just be “5 pipes” but that seems out of place here. I’ll let you know the results…
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Post by okla on May 18, 2010 7:16:06 GMT 8
Hey Fots.....More food for over active imaginations I fear. I love it. I do have a question though. I have long been bugged by this minute detail, but have just never posted it on this thread. Maybe it has been discussed, but I am in the dark about who actually labored on the mysterious Navy tunnels? ? Was it the Army engineers? Labor from Bilibid? A joint effort. A Navy effort with only Naval personnel. This Navy Tunnel activity just seems so shrouded in mystery that I fear my hyper imagination is gonna kick in and I will find myself in another dither that I can't solve. I am leaving the answer in your most capable hands. You would think somewhere in some dark, dank, cobwebbed archive that a set of what the tunnels were going to look like when finished would be contained in blueprints, etc. If all this has been discussed, tell me what thread and I will jump right on it. Thanks. Postscript....Surely this activity isn't still "hush hush" because the good 'ole US of A doesn't want the Japanese (or the world, for that matter) to know that we were flaunting the disarmament,etc treaties of the 1920s. If so (tho I can't buy into that idea) all I can say is, at this late date, "SO WHAT".
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Post by fots2 on May 18, 2010 14:09:54 GMT 8
Okla, I have never heard who did the physical construction work in the Navy Tunnels. Batteryboy told me that the last Bilibid prisoners doing labor and construction work left the island in December 1941 so they could have been involved in these tunnels.
Information surely exists but it is hard to come by. Perhaps some of the historians here can let us know.
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Post by fots2 on May 22, 2010 17:00:29 GMT 8
I received a reply from Mapmaster.
Without knowing the exact locations of the three Navy tunnels in this small area, it is impossible to determine if the pipes are related to a tunnel. However, they are ‘very’ close to where the tunnels have to be so that is the best we can do until further information surfaces.
Thanks to Mapmaster for reviewing the waypoint and maps. The quest continues…
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