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Post by victor on Aug 11, 2009 3:02:31 GMT 8
THE REMOVAL BY BATTERYBOY OF HIS POSTS ON THIS TOPIC HAS RENDERED THIS THREAD SOMEWHAT OF A NONSENSE. NEVERTHELESS, THERE ARE SOME FACTS OF WORTH TO BE MINED. ADMIN [/b][/color] Hi Batteryboy, Questions about your Morong/Mauban trip: 1. Where did you find your guides? How did your group organize the trip? 2. Why did your group take a banca to Bayandati? Would it have taken long if you drove up the west road? 3. Were the guides primarily responsible for locating the general area of the defenses and your group simply looked fro trenches and proof that the line was there? Or were there much hair pulling,map matching in reconciling the Morton book maps with the actual terrain? 4. Did you find anything at the bottom of the trenches? (cartridges, canteens, etc.) They're likely spots for relics to have been left behind. 5. It's amazing how your group was able to estimate where the Japanese roadblock was. Did you have a metal detector at that time you found the spent Japanese cartridges? 6. Were you guys specifically looking for the GPF earth berms when you went up the Mauban ridge? Or did you just happen to find the earth berms there? Was there a mention about it in the Morton book (I'll have to revisit that chapter)? Sorry to inundate with more questions. Like I said, I've dreamed of doing the same thing and here you guys actually did it. These are all good stuff. Can't wait for more.
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Post by rickthelibrarian on Aug 11, 2009 6:56:53 GMT 8
All I can say is "WOW!!!!"
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Post by victor on Aug 11, 2009 10:31:17 GMT 8
Amazing. Truly I had missed the boat. I'm 23 years too late. Someday we'll have to do this again... armed with more books and digital cameras, google, and the internet, cell phones, and what not. Someday...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2009 16:07:17 GMT 8
Mr. Batteryboy,
i enjoyed reading your messages and your sketches. I was told that you are the person that is being contacted when it comes to these kinds of trips. When will be your next?
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Post by victor on Aug 13, 2009 9:42:36 GMT 8
Amazing finds. I would love to find some of those to put in a museum for posterity. I found some bike trail riding pictures of Quinauan point area.This is probably how the area looks these days: sports.webshots.com/album/193149414XqvYPG
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Post by The Phantom on Aug 22, 2009 8:50:55 GMT 8
Some scatter shooting on the Battles for the Points on Bataan in 1942. Interesting events, tactics, and battles from: "THE FALL OF THE PHILIPPINES" written by the ARMY CENTER FOR MILITARY HISTORY
" THE DISPATCH OF TRAINED INFANTRY TROOPS INTO THE AREA WAS HASTENED WHEN THE JAPANESE TRIED TO REINFORCE THEIR STRANDED MEN ON QUINAUAN POINT. WAINWRIGHT, THERE UPON ORDERED 2 SCOUT BATTALIONS ...TO MOVE IN AND TAKE OVER THE SECTORS.'
"SINCE THE MORNING OF THE 25TH OF JANUARY THE MEN OF BATTERY GEARY HAD BEEN WAITING EAGERLY FOR PERMISSION TO OPEN FIRE ON THE JAPANESE. AT 1000 THIS PERMISSION HAS BEEN DENIED TO COL. BUNKER, HE WENT BACK TO HIS QUARTERS, 'INWARDLY RAVING WITH DISAPPOINTMENT'.
FINALLY LATE THAT EVENING WORD CAME FROM GENERAL KING THE BATTERY COULD FIRE IN SUPPORT OF THE NAVAL BATTALION.
USING 670 LB. LAND ATTACK PROJECTILES WITH SUPERQUICK FUSES,WHICH WORKED BEAUTIFULLY, BATTERY GEARY FIRED 16 ROUNDS AT A RANGE OF 12,000 YARDS AT MIDNIGHT.
THE RESULTS WERE MOST GRATIFYING . AFTER THE 4TH SHOT THE FORWARD OBSERVER ON MT. PUCOT REPORTED THAT SUCH LARGE FIRES WERE STARTED ON LONGOSKAWAYAN POINT THAT HE COULD NO LONGER SEE THE TARGET."
"THIS BOMBARDMENT, THE FIRST HEAVY CALIBER AMERICAN COAST ARTILLERY FIRE SINCE THE CIVIL WAR, MADE A STRONG IMPRESSION ON THE JAPANESE.
ONE OF THEM LATER RECALLED:
"WE WERE TERRIFIED, WE COULD NOT SEE WHERE THE THE BIG SHELLS OR BOMBS WERE COMING FROM: THEY SEEMED TO BE FALLING FROM THE SKY. BEFORE I WAS WOUNDED MY HEAD WAS GOING ROUND AND ROUND, I DID NOT KNOW WHAT TO DO. SOME OF MY COMPANIONS JUMPED OFF THE CLIFF TO ESCAPE THE TERRIBLE FIRE."
Prior to this incident the Japanese described their first encounter with the bluejackets who were sent to stop their advance after they landed on the Points.
"FOR THE JAPANESE THIS FIRST ENCOUNTER WITH THE UNTRAINED BLUEJACKETS WAS A CONFUSING AND BEWILDERING ONE.
A JAPANESE RECORDED IN HIS DIARY--- AMONG THE AMERICANS, A 'NEW TYPE OF SUICIDE SQUAD', DRESSED IN BRIGHT COLORED UNIFORMS. "WHENEVER THESE APPARITIONS REACHED AN OPEN SPACE, HE WROTE, THEY WOULD ATTEMPT TO DRAW JAPANESE FIRE BY SITTING DOWN, TALKING LOUDLY AND LIGHTING CIGARETTES"
"THE BRIGHTLY COLORED UNIFORMS THE JAPANESE NOTED WERE THE RESULT OF AN EFFORT BY THE SAILORS TO DYE THEIR WHITES KHAKI, AN EFFORT WHICH PRODUCED A UNIFORM OF A SICKLY MUSTARD YELLOW."
" ONCE AGAIN THE AMERICANS HAD LEARNED THE LESSON , SO OFTEN DEMONSTRATED DURING THE CAMPAIGN THAT TRAINED TROOPS CAN ACCOMPLISH EASILY AND QUICKLY WHAT UNTRAINED SOLDIERS FIND DIFFICULT AND COSTLY. THE SCOUTS WERE REWARDED FOR THEIR EFFORTS WITH BAGS OF RICE AND CANS OF SALMON.......
BUT HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE PROMPT ACTION OF THE NAVAL BATTALION, MY. PUCOT MIGHT WELL HAVE BEEN LOST DURING THE FIRST DAYS OF ACTION."
"ALTHOUGH THE AMERICANS HAD NOT KNOWN IT, THE JAPANESE ON LONGOSKAWAYAN HAD NEVER HAD A CHANCE TO INFLICT PERMANANT DAMAGE AS THEIR LOCATION WAS UNKNOWN TO HIGHER HEADQUARTERS.
INDEED NEITHER KIMURA WHO HAD SENT THEM OUT, NOR TSUNECHIRO, THE BATTALION COMMANDER, SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN AWARE, OR EVEN TO HAVE SUSPECTED, THAT A PORTION OF THE SECOND BATTALION HAD LANDED SO FAR SOUTH. (300 TOTAL).
ONE JAPANESE OFFICER WOULD NOT BE CONVINCED UNTIL HE WAS SHOWN THE JAPANESE CEMETERY AT LONGOSKAWAYAN POINT."
Could there be another LOST Japanese cemetery? Like the one was on Corregidor for so long? You know, where the current "Peace Garden" is. A peace garden full of Japanese artillery..........
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