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Post by Karl Welteke on Feb 21, 2010 15:47:45 GMT 8
Scrapping continues until recently! As every year since 2004 (for me) we (students of history) gathered on Corregidor to raise the US 48 Star Flag on 16th Feb. on the Old Spanish Flag Pole. This year was the 65th anniversary of the outstanding assault on Corregidor by the Allied Forces in 1945 and on that day a paratrooper climbed a pole, under fire, and fastened the US Colors to it to fly again over Corregidor. As always we come to Corregidor with certain goals to see or find this or that we have noted on our lists to do. During this visit we came to the conclusion that here and there the scrapping of metal still continuous today. It is a serious thing because it means people rip, chisel and saw the rebar out of the still existing concrete structures and so cause them to a faster demise. It is not widespread but we certainly noticed it this time. In this album (21 images) we tried to document by before and after images as to what we noticed this time: s74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/PI-Sailor/Corregidor%20by%20subject/CI%20Subalbum%20No%201/Scrapping%20continuous%20even%20today%202010/
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Post by okla on Feb 22, 2010 1:28:52 GMT 8
Hey Karl....Many thanks for the update on the scavenger activity that continues to one degree or another on the "rock". Too bad that the energy expended on hacking at the concrete and steel isn't expended on clearing underbrush,etc. Oh well, who said life was fair. Keep up the good work on keeping us folks half way around the planet informed of these "goings on".
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Post by fots2 on Feb 22, 2010 15:18:28 GMT 8
I can’t say when these bars were cut but recently would be a good guess. In this humid and salty sea air environment, the ends of these pieces of rebar are not even rusted over yet.
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Post by EXO on Feb 22, 2010 20:46:18 GMT 8
This is a thread of continuing interest which should benefit with a permanent page address, and a few internal links within the CT&N and Coast Artillery of Manila & Subic Bay websites. Irrespective of where the links are, they will point to: corregidor.org/chs_welteke/scrapping_report_1.htmNo suggestion is made by these websites that Corregidor Foundation Inc condones in any respect the vandalism and theft of historic structures or articles of Corregidor. CFI should be supported in their efforts to protect the island from cultural vandals and heritage thieves. Scrapping is too charming a word to describe the vermin who destroy the structures on this island. We cannot pretend that thievery isn't happening on Corregidor, and we support that CFI should be given greater power to deal a severe blow to anyone caught vandalizing any structure on the island.
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Post by buster on Feb 25, 2010 20:36:02 GMT 8
Sort of redefines "recent" to include between 2004 and 2009, doesnt it?
And I don't think it stopped in 2009 either.
CFI can't be blamed if some scum got over Corregidor's vermin fence. However, this sort of hammer and chisel thievery suggests that the thieves are long term residents who are well acquainted with dodging the island security patrols.
One of the best things which has happened to Corregidor lately is the opening of some of the areas by Steve & Marcia (eg Infantry Point, Btry James, James Ravine, C1.) This certainly allows better access to these areas. This is NOT saying there's any connection there at all, coz there isn't. I think that the opening of roads in these regions improves security, not reduces it. Midnight thieves are assisted by a lack of access to their areas. Maybe an armed patrol car would assist in patrolling the vermin fences. Not quite a 50 cal on a jeep, but something equipped to scare the noxious effluent out of the scum.
The opening of these areas reflects great credit upon Steve, Marcia, and to CFI in their background.
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Post by EXO on Mar 4, 2010 16:06:37 GMT 8
Well, Buster, it seems, was wrong - at least about the 2006 Scrappers. CFI report that they detained four fishermen on topside, and handed them over to the Coastguard. The perps were convicted and jailed, so the advice goes. Of course, the sad story is that Corregidor just attracts such folk, and for that they blame Corregidor. Fishing gets lean in September and October, and there's no work available, and their families need to be fed, so they simply turn to larceny. That guarantees it will happen again. So the world turns, and maybe I can close this thread now before I start getting bogged down in useless philosophy. Though before I go, is there anyone out there who can do a graphic design for a T-Shirt which can be sold at Manila International Airport that says: MANILA - IT'S REALITY, JIM, BUT NOT AS WE KNOW IT!
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Post by The Phantom on Mar 26, 2010 4:58:39 GMT 8
Good reporting and research. Were the fishermen captured living on the Tail, or on Officers beach?
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Post by fireball on Oct 31, 2011 20:20:09 GMT 8
Not taken on Corregidor, nor indeed a military site, but for those not familiar with the Philippines it shows how scrapping is carried out: - nail at end of small stick, used with hammer to chip down to rebar (as in photo) - Sledgehammer and chisel to pull rebar out - hacksaw to cut piece off Reward, I think, Peso 15/kg. Attachments:
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Post by Karl Welteke on Jul 16, 2015 19:06:19 GMT 8
ABRA CADABRA!! NOW YOU SEE IT, NOW YOU DON’T Some people take the darndest things for souvenirs! X749 (01) this is the pump house at the topside 3 Million Gallon Water Reservoir. The picture was shot 2005-01-20 and the window metal frames are still in place. X750 (02) this is the pump house at the topside 3 Million Gallon Water Reservoir. The picture was shot 2015-04-10 and in the same angle, just further away. The frames have been removed. X751 (03) this is the pump house at the topside 3 Million Gallon Water Reservoir. The picture was shot 2005-01-20 and the window metal frames are still in place. X752 (04) this is the pump house at the topside 3 Million Gallon Water Reservoir. The picture was shot 2015-04-10 and all the metal window frames are gone. The above pictures are small in size. Bigger copies are in this album with the numbers 01 to 04: s74.photobucket.com/user/PI-Sailor/library/Corregidor%20by%20subject/CI%20Subalbum%20No%201/Scrapping%20continuous%20even%20today%202010?sort=9&page=1or tinyurl.com/ns776xq
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Post by Registrar on Jul 17, 2015 16:48:37 GMT 8
Such a small Island, so many Magicians.
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