Whilst not Corregidor-centric, I figured you guys would be the best to ask this inquiry about the Philippine Krag.
Several thousands of Krags were modified here in the Manila Arsenal to adapt the "bolo" bayonet. Is there anyone here who has info on this particular rifle? Any chance that serial numbers can be secured and if so where? If not, any leads where such records are kept and if it is possible to see them?
Will email you full article in PDF offline. Here is some info for our members on the Constabulary Krag:
The Philippine Constrabulary when it was formed started out with weapons like the Remington single barrel shotguns, .45 trapdoor Springfield, and other 2nd hand weapons left behind or captured from the Spaniards. seeing the potential of the Constabulary troops as able peacekeepers and efficient in quelling uprisings. In 1906, Brig-Gen Henry T. Allen proposed a standard rifle to equip the constables. The standard 30-inch long krag Rifle was considered to be too long and heavy for the small statured local troops.
Allen requested the War Department to purchase 5,000 modified Krags what were to be assembled with cut-down rifle stocks and were capable of accomodating the standard Krag bayonet. By 1903, the Springfield Model 1903 was becoming the standard US Infantry Rifle and there were a lot of surplus Krags. The final price for each Krag rifle was USD 6.00 and by 1906, the new rifles arrived to equip the constables.
The rifles were still in use up to 1917. US officers serving with the Philippine Constabulary even bought their own personal "Philippine Krags' but with were said to sign a sworn statement that they should sell them back to the Constabulary or to another Constabulary officer should the leave the service.
All Springield made Constabulary Krags had a distinct inspector cartouche marked "JFC" as shown in the photo. There some modifications of the rifle that were done in other arsenals as well as in the Manila arsenal.
Notice that the Constabulay Krags were as the same lenght as its carbine equivalent. It was referred to be more of a carbine than a rifle.
Some modifications included it to be fitted with a bolo bayonet as used by Moro soldiers with the PC.
Last Edit: Oct 23, 2010 18:38:22 GMT 8 by batteryboy
Post by rickthelibrarian on Aug 4, 2011 21:32:19 GMT 8
The two Moro Philippine Scouts are carrying M1903s, not Krags.
The so-called Philippine Constabulary rifles were mainly made from M1899 Krag carbines. Nearly all of them were lost or destroyed in the Philippines. Virtually all the so-called "Philippine Constabulary" Krags offered for sale or on displayed are so-called "school guns", and not from the Philippines.
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