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Post by fots2 on Jun 14, 2023 10:46:36 GMT 8
Good day Doug,
Welcome back to the Philippines.
Another individual who would be interested in your explorations is Karl Welteke. He lives in Barrio Baretto, Olongapo so not far from you. He may not have seen your post yet.
I am also in the Philippines and am interested but I live further away. I rarely get to Bataan due to family life etc. Perhaps I'll see you someday on Corregidor or even Bataan if something really special is going on.
Regards.
John
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Post by fots2 on May 31, 2023 10:03:58 GMT 8
No problem George, thanks for the info. If you want to see the tunnel, have a look at the link below. (Set YourTube to 4K or 2160P for the best video quality). Tunnel Video
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Post by fots2 on May 29, 2023 9:27:37 GMT 8
Hello George,
That is great information. Thank-you for posting it.
Did your research tell you when these two tunnels were constructed? I assume it was sometime after 1936. Are there more than two of these tunnels? Did you find any tunnel sketches or official drawings of them?
I can upload a video of the tunnel if you wish.
Thanks.
John
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Post by fots2 on Apr 16, 2023 10:39:45 GMT 8
This location is actually one of the few places on Corregidor where I did not notice any shell craters at all
Great post there on fb Chad. That is proof that Plots did exist during the 1941-42 fighting. I have not seen that list before. You have quite a collection at home. Thank-you.
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Post by fots2 on Apr 15, 2023 18:30:03 GMT 8
Hi Chad,
Three or four numbered concrete blocks were found after the fire. All of them were in the area of Plot B as shown on the map you posted in 2015.
The cemetery beside I-M-5 is the one I was calling the 2nd cemetery. There are tombstones and tombstone bases starting on the east side of the loop road so I thought this was a continuation of the 1st cemetery.
Block #102 was found in the Plot B area.
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Post by fots2 on Apr 15, 2023 10:40:29 GMT 8
Hi Chad,
There are actually two cemeteries and both of them are east of Kindley Field. The first one had out-grown the boundaries shown on the map as tombstones can be found across the old road. All tombstones found so far were civilians. I doubt in 1941 the man from CAST got a proper tombstone though.
Years ago there was a fire on Tailside. This was great to burn away high grasses and bushes to expose the cemeteries. We found more headstones plus small rectangular concrete blocks with numbers in them which we had not seen before. I have never seen any plot numbers but grave numbers; yes. (no Number 25 was found but that might not have been marking Grisham’s gave site anyway).
Here is a link to photos taken from the area:
Cemeteries
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Post by fots2 on Feb 28, 2023 10:11:03 GMT 8
Good day Roland, Rob and oozlefinch. I do not know the history of this gun battery but here are a few comments. - Filipino graffiti really does not determine who had the tunnel constructed. If it was the Japanese then I expect it was forced labor that actually did the digging which might explain the language. Graffiti could have been during or even port-war. I also did not see any of the graffiti being military. As Karl mentioned on facebook, I think this tunnel and all others were known and visited post-war. Perhaps due to it’s more remote location and even the reseeding of the island in later years, it became more hidden and eventually forgotten. There were zero indications (i.e. modern garbage) or evidence of cutting/digging that you find in other tunnels. No one has been in there in a long time. - This tunnel seems larger and is more elaborate than the similar one near James Ravine however both are mysteries. If they were American then I expect they would have shown up on the 1941 Emergency Defense Map but both do not. - Neither tunnel has exposed bolts at the gun position. I doubt anyone has even looked for them. - oozlefinch, if you are referring to a CDSG trip in the early 2000s then they may have been to the James Ravine tunnel. Roger Davis has photos of this tunnel but I do not know if he was with your group at that time. In 2020, three CDSG guys attempted to find the James Ravine tunnel but missed it. I don’t think the group has ever been to this latest tunnel. - Rob, I was just exploring areas where nothing is “supposed’ to be. Since the last detailed Corregidor map was made in 1936, the Army had over four years of construction for which records did not survive the war. I have found tunnels, bunkers and magazines not on any map. Part of the fun on Corregidor. The ravine area in question is steep, thorny and thick. I had my quota of bloody scratches for the day and was heading out when I came across a deep cut in the hillside. This turned out to be the road cut into the tunnel. Just luck!
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Post by fots2 on Feb 24, 2023 10:02:37 GMT 8
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Post by fots2 on Sept 12, 2022 20:20:34 GMT 8
That is exactly what I was thinking when I look at these photos ExO. "Sad" is fitting. The character of Corregidor is changing and not for the better. It sort of reminds me of the coat of white paint applied to solid oak handrails during the Corregidor Inn's renovation.
By the way, I cannot see a complete view in Karl's photos but if a road from the James Ravine water tank all the way to the beach was bulldozed then they destroyed part of the zig-zag concrete defensive line just above the beach. There was also a cable hut there for the Army's mine cables. Can anyone confirm that?
New concreted roads are one thing, what history is being destroyed by this island-wide work?
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Post by fots2 on Jul 20, 2022 20:44:16 GMT 8
That is a lot of uncertainty there ExO. Just a thought, Corregidor's pre-war Army swimming beaches had shark nets. Did fecal matter kill them all or should the little Clinic be enlarged? EXO'S REPLY Describing Corregidor's beaches as suitable for swimming is the height of irresponsibility. I guess they figure people won't suffer the dreaded lurgies until they are back in Manila.
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