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Post by batteryboy on Dec 27, 2011 20:29:50 GMT 8
Good comments gents. I will just make my comments short:
- Note that just before the war, there was a cage mast and a "typhoon deck" including a few structures on top of the fort. Access to the insides was thru the sally port. Direct acess to the upper deck was thru a cat ladder or stairs from the port side dock or pier.
- ammo for the M1917 3-inch guns were transported via: 1) the loading elevators of the 14-inch guns and 2) a hoist (some say portable) thru an opering from the top of the sally port.
- come wartime, all deck structures were cleared and pushed aside. The catwalks were said to have been removed as well to prevent Japanese landing parties from climbing the walls. A 3-inch M1915 seacoast RF gun from Battery Hoyle at Fort Frank was transferred to the Fort Drum and mounted at the rear deck. Ammo was transported the same method (via hoist and thru the turrets.
- it was said that the crews of the AA and the 3-inch gun made their quick escape thu a portable ladder down the sally port.
- By late Feb 42 onwards up to surrender in May, most of the crew members were holed up inside the fort as the Japanese already had guns in the Ternate area and subjected both Drum and Frank to daily artillery fires.
HTH,
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2011 21:57:34 GMT 8
I thought that access was adjacent to the 6" batteries. Are these steps going down? I think this photo of Karl's shows the same place. -Alan
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Post by okla on Dec 27, 2011 23:44:37 GMT 8
Hey Guys.....I am down with the "flu", but am still able to send out New Years Greetings to you good folks. Maybe during 2012 that relief convoy from stateside for Corregidor will arrive. I keep fantasizing that it will come plowing around the Cavite headlands just in the nick of time and we will all live happily ever after. Maybe my Okasan is right and I am "over the edge". Cheers and a Happy New Year to all you "geeks".
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Post by batteryboy on Dec 28, 2011 1:29:54 GMT 8
Hi Tiyoalan,
Yes you are correct that both 6-inc casemates have an acess to the upper deck. The one at Battery Roberts led directly to a wooden building when the structures were built.
Regards,
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Post by armyjunk on Dec 28, 2011 11:48:35 GMT 8
IMHO Since the structure was designed before the M1917 AA gun or the installation of Battery Hoyle I don't much thought was given to how to supply ammo to either. 3in rounds are 25-30 pounds and could easily be carried up steps
Ladder in Sally PortPassage to lower decks
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Post by batteryboy on Dec 28, 2011 13:05:59 GMT 8
There you go, a much clearer explanation. Thanks Armyjunk!
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Post by fireball on Dec 28, 2011 20:41:15 GMT 8
Hi Armjunk, That is a really clear part of the plan for Fort Drum you posted - do you have any more sections available ? I am planning a return trip and they would be invaluable. For those who have not visited it, the current state of the Fort can make identification of features very difficult and so the better the plan the easier the task. For example, looking out from the Battery Roberts access shaft the port forward fire control station now looks like this:
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Post by okla on Dec 28, 2011 22:20:33 GMT 8
Hey Army....You have made the fog lift a great deal on another "riddle". You just can't beat having explicit/exact diagrams to ponder. Thanks a bunch.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2011 22:50:26 GMT 8
IMHO Since the structure was designed before the M1917 AA gun or the installation of Battery Hoyle I don't much thought was given to how to supply ammo to either. 3in rounds are 25-30 pounds and could easily be carried up steps
This is exactly what I was looking for! Where did you get these drawings? Thanks to everyone on this board for their help. I will be posting the reason why I asked these questions in a few days. I think you will like it. Catcalloway
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Post by darthdract on Jan 25, 2012 23:43:11 GMT 8
This reply should answer some of the questions. Let the pictures do the talking: Most people come this way (per helicopter is another way). This was a super calm day but this old overweight man still needed help. Even if it is little rough, this operation becomes risky with these outrigger boats. These boats jump up and down like a feather and can’t kept alongside without wrecking them. There is guy with an M-16 is he from the Coastguard/NAVY or Security personel of CFI
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