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Post by Karl Welteke on Nov 2, 2012 8:57:36 GMT 8
History Trip 2012 Oct 14 to 16 to Tagaytay, Nasugbu, Ternate Tunnel, Carabao & Limbones Isl. Ternate, Marines, Naic, Maragondon, 64 images. This thread also incluedes our 2nd follow-up visit 2012-Nov. 22 to 24. On these dates John Moffitt and I checked out the village south of Carabao Island to see about future transportation to there and Limbones Isl. In the process we went to Nasugbu, Sta. Mercedes, the new tunnel, Ternate, Pico de Loro, the Marine Base, Naic and Maragondon. This album includes some WWII images from the www which I marked as to where they came from. They make this album more interesting. Here is the album with 64 images which all have descriptions: s74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/PI-Sailor/Manila%20Bay%20Forts-Other/From%20Cavite%20Side/Cavite%20Trip%20etc%202012%20Oct%2014%20to%2016/Here are some sample images: This is a rare Carabao Island image from NARA. We went to the Cavite side of Manila Bay to see whether boat transportation is available from there to the island. This marked-up Google Earth terrain map of Cavite, Batangas and Manila Bay covers the main subjects of this album This 41st Inf. Div. PA USAFFE Shrine was another reason I went to Tagaytay. The reunion held here on the 14th Oct. 2012 is covered in another album. s74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/PI-Sailor/Images%20to%20be%20linked/?action=view¤t=12101241stInfDivPAUSAFFEMemorialPilargrounds03.jpgOn the 3rd Feb. 1945 the 11th Airborne Div. dropped a regiment onto the Tagaytay Ridge. This small plaque in Tagaytay reminds us. It is located in the Rotunda in Tagaytay Town. s74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/PI-Sailor/Images%20to%20be%20linked/?action=view¤t=04121012aTagaytayRotunda0211thAirborneDiv.jpgOn February 3, 1945, the 11th Airborne Division performed a combat jump with the 511th PIR on the Tagaytay ridge. This is a NARA image. The airdrop was to support the Amphibious landing, 31 Jan. 1945 at Nasugbu. A Nara Picture of the Nasugbu landing. The beach was too shallow and many of the vehicles drowned and didn’t start or blocked the ramp openings. They even dried to make waves and get the landing ships further up on the beach. I guess at this landing they didn’t have the Navy Beach Masters with cause ways. The source of the image is indicated but the description must be wrong. I don’t think it was Marines; it was the 11th Airborne Div which landed here in Nasugbu. This time 5 images uploaded out of 7, not too bad with my record!
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Post by oozlefinch on Nov 2, 2012 13:28:25 GMT 8
I may be showing my ignorance, but I wasn't aware that the marines took part in the re-taking of the islands. I thought it was purely an army show.
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Post by sherwino on Nov 2, 2012 16:48:23 GMT 8
nice stuff! I didn't know before that Tagaytay has a historical background.
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Post by okla on Nov 2, 2012 21:50:31 GMT 8
Hey Guys.....I, too, was totally unaware that any USMC units took part in the liberation of the PI. It has always been my, evidently mistaken, notion that Genl Mac wanted his land operations to be totally Army, especially, regarding the task of running the Japanese out of the Philippines. Seems that I learn something everyday.
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Post by cbuehler on Nov 3, 2012 1:30:09 GMT 8
The caption of that picture is wrong! That is one of the glider regiments of the 11th Airborne at Nasugbu. They are wearing the Army camouflage jungle packs which must have given the impression that they were Marines. The only participation of ground Marines during the liberation were a brigade of Artillery loaned from FMFPAC which assisted in the landings at Leyte only. The other more important Marine participation was the First Marine Airwing (I MAW), which provided close in support for the Army on the gound througout the entire Philippines Liberation campaign. By the way Karl, when my wife and I visited our lot near Tagaytay (which just happens to be VERY close to where that "string" of troopers are landing in the photo) I noticed that the monument in the rotunda at Tagaytay has been completely changed and the plaque to the 11th AB is gone! What happened?
CB
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Post by cbuehler on Nov 3, 2012 1:37:02 GMT 8
nice stuff! I didn't know before that Tagaytay has a historical background. Hi Sherwino, Yes, Tagaytay does have a strong ww2 connection. It is where the first camp of the 41st Infantry Division (PA) was based and trained under General Lim before the start of ww2. There is a monument along the main road on the north side when going out of the town proper towards Batangas. This is of course in addition to the well known jump by the 511th PIR on Feb. 3, 1945. And before I forget, during the occupation the Japanese maintained a some training and propaganda units there and I believe a Kempeitai station, but not sure about this. CB
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Post by sherwino on Nov 3, 2012 9:11:06 GMT 8
Thanks, Conrad. You sure know a lot of stuff.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Nov 3, 2012 12:16:38 GMT 8
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Post by cbuehler on Nov 4, 2012 6:25:36 GMT 8
Whew! glad it is still there, thanks. I could not notice it last time. And the good old Peoples Park...we know it well as the manager (at least as of several years ago) is a friend of ours. C
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Post by Karl Welteke on Nov 11, 2012 14:29:36 GMT 8
On our way to Nasugbu John and I met up in Tagaytay on the 14th Oct 2012 in the afternoon. I attended the 41st Inf. Div. PA USAFFE Annual Reunion then we proceeded to Nasugbu. We figured we only would have time to find a place to stay and check up on a few historical markers. We had heard of a marker to remember the US Army amphibious landing there on the 31st Jan. 1945. I had seen picture of a Japanese Marker on the Nasugbu Point and we wanted to find it. The uploaded pictures here will explain some of this. There are many places to stay in Nasugbu and we were surprised to see a number of Philippine style girly bars. At the site of the landing, at the Nasugbu beach, the Philippine authorities erected this marker to remember the landing. It resembles a LCM-3 (Landing Craft Mechanized MK3, they were about 50 feet long). This replica of what seems to be the size of a LCM-3 landing craft is a neat idea. This comment is from a qualified assault boat coxswain, your’s truly. s74.photobucket.com/user/PI-Sailor/media/Images%20to%20be%20linked/08121015bNasugbu31Jan45LandingMemorial02.jpg.htmlIn front of the replica boat stand 3 statures, maybe they represent the Commanders of the landing, Gen. Eichelberger, 8th Army and Gen Swing 11th Airborne Div. s74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/PI-Sailor/Images%20to%20be%20linked/?action=view¤t=09121015bNasugbu31Jan45LandingMemorial10.jpgIn front of the 3 statures, of the 31 Jan. 1945 Landing Marker, is this description plaque. s74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/PI-Sailor/Images%20to%20be%20linked/?action=view¤t=10121015bNasugbu31Jan45LandingMemorial03.jpgThe inside, the well deck, of the replica landing craft. s74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/PI-Sailor/Images%20to%20be%20linked/?action=view¤t=11121015bNasugbu31Jan45LandingMemorial06.jpgInside the well deck of the replica landing craft is this plaque in Tagalog s74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/PI-Sailor/Images%20to%20be%20linked/?action=view¤t=12121015bNasugbu31Jan45LandingMemorial07.jpgThere seem to be several small islands off the Batangas west coast and we enjoyed the sunset there in Nasugbu. John and I found a beach lodging place (Maryland) for 1500 peso which we shared. John and I arrived in Nasugbu on the 14th Oct. 2012and only checked out Nasugbu. This is the Nasugbu town beach park. This is where the landing marker is and John is getting a sunset shot in. This is Nasugbu Point, just north of Nasugbu Town and the Wawa village and Wawa harbor is between the two. This image is from the www. We looked for this marker but it is gone or is destroyed. Here is an URL about the landing by a Regimental Supply Officer of the 187 Glider Regiment www.benning.army.mil/library/content/virtual/donovanpapers/wwii/STUP2/HoppensteinIssac%20%20MAJ.pdfHe describes that enemy fire was coming from that Nasugbu Point and rocket ships were used to silence the Japanese fire. Here is the same point. Walls and fences prevented us to go there. A man said the Japanese marker had fallen down. Be reminded here is the whole album with 64 images which all have descriptions: s74.photobucket.com/albums/i265/PI-Sailor/Manila%20Bay%20Forts-Other/From%20Cavite%20Side/Cavite%20Trip%20etc%202012%20Oct%2014%20to%2016/And if you like to look at all the images of this trip, they are here: 2016-10-01 this link below is dead! pisailor.multiply.com/photos/album/137/NasugbutunnelCarabao-Limbones-Isl.TernateNaicMaragondon-2012-10-14-to-16This album and this photo sharing company do not exist anymore. It is one of my bad luck stories with photo sharing companies This time only 4 out of 9 images uploaded!
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