A question for the history buffs, did Manila have shore based torpedo emplacements? I was interested in those after I found out that Norway successfully sank a German Battlecruiser as it neared a harbor from hidden torpedo tubes built under ground.
Hey Moss....I have never, in my limited readings,etc, ever discovered anything relating to shore based torpedo defenses in the PI or the whole Pacific Theater, at least as far as American ordnance is/was concerned. Probably just as well, since those USN torpedoes on hand in those days were highly defective until mid War when our Subs, with more lethal "fish" went on a rampage. There are folks on this Forum with far more knowledge about this kind of stuff than yours truly. I am sure, if I am in error, you will be made privy to a more thorough briefing on the subject at hand. Cheers.
We had an extensive minefield in the Manila Bay area by both the US Army (Coast Defense) and the Navy but no shore based torpedo defenses. Torpedoes were used in subs and PT boats during the 41-42 campaign.
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We had an extensive minefield in the Manila Bay area by both the US Army (Coast Defense) and the Navy but no shore based torpedo defenses. Torpedoes were used in subs and PT boats during the 41-42 campaign.[/quo
In 1943 No11 Squadron RAAF ( Royal Australian Air Force ) Began offensive mine laying operations , which continued until the end of the war. The squadrons most notable achievement was the mining of Manila Harbor in December 1944. 3 Catalinas were used . They had to fly over 9000 miles to mine Manila Harbor.
You are probably referring to German battle cruiser Blücher, which was sunk by a combination of shore based batteries and torpedoes in very restricted waters. In wide open Manila bay, shore based torpedoes would have been all but useless and obviously would have been destroyed in short order with loss of air supremacy. As it stood, there would have been precious few targets anyhow until it was too late.
Gooday Okla . Joe regarding the mining of Manila Harbor in 1944 . I spoke with a local about the staging of the operation to Manila . Apparently there were 25 PBYs ( Calalina's ) on the mission 24 were RAAF airplanes and one was a USN PBY ( Catalina ). One airplane was lost on the mission . Out of the 25 Airplanes 3 were selected to mine Manila Harbor ,the others were to Mine other Philippine Ports .The local who served on these type of aircraft was not absolutely sure , because of it being so long ago, but he thinks they may have staged out of Rathmines which was the RAAF Catalina base in the eastern states of Australia . But it may have been Port Moresby New Guinea . Apparently the airplanes were stripped of any armour and guns for the mission .
For those who maybe interested . I came across an article in regards to the RAAF Catalina's Mining Manila Harbor 1944 . Angeles City RSL ( Returned Services League Australia ) Sub Branch . World War 2 1944 - Australian RAAF Catalina ( Flying Boat ) was shot down by Imperial Japanese Forces over Corregidor Island . All Crew were lost & never found . A memorial will be dedicated to those who lost their lives . Family of the deceased will be attending .All welcome to Attend Catalina Dedication . Thurs . 23 April 2015 Maritime Academy of Asia and Pacific .
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