Dumping or salvaging WWII equipment?
Nov 26, 2020 14:12:58 GMT 8
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Post by Karl Welteke on Nov 26, 2020 14:12:58 GMT 8
Dumping or salvaging WWII equipment?
Zd811. PWs dump Japanese 37mm antitank guns into the North Harbor, Manila, Philippines, June 5, 1946
Much of the Japanese war armament from small firearms to tanks were disposed of this way.
Ordnance Disposal, US Signal Corp photo, Sucherman photographer, US National Archives.
John Tewell provided this picture with this URL:
www.flickr.com/photos/johntewell/48863881088/in/album-72157676432076268/
Zd812. Tanks to dump in bay for disposal, Manila, Philippines, March 1946
Tanks on a barge that will be towed out to sea for disposal.
Ordnance Disposal, Manila, Philippines.
Ordnance Disposal, US Signal Corp photo, US National Archives.
John Tewell provided this picture with this URL:
www.flickr.com/photos/johntewell/48873558873/in/album-72157676432076268/
The above two pictures were copied from John Tewell’s Flickr album: WWII, Manila, 3, click here:
www.flickr.com/photos/johntewell/albums/72157676432076268/with/48858171936/
The people of the Army Lt. Chester K. Britt Research Team forwarded me these pictures. They are planning to write a book about Army Lt. Chester K. Britt soon! Here is forum page about Army Lt. Chester K. Britt, click here:
corregidor.proboards.com/thread/2275/army-chester-britt-ship-oryoku
John Duresky wrote me this on the 24th Nov. 2020 about the two pictures above:
Was wondering if any divers ever located all these things, they were dumping in Manila Bay after the war? If these two photos are a sample, then somewhere at the bottom of Manila Bay must be a virtual mountain of discarded war materials.
Not only is war wasteful, but after war is pretty wasteful too. Why they couldn't transport those things back to the U.S. and donate to communities for war memorials and local museums is strange.
John
I answered him this way:
Hi John
My input.
It most likely would have cost money to hire ships to take the stuff back and then handle it there, not cost effective and a waste of time.
I don’t understand why they dumped it so close to piers, less the area was being filled in later as new land.
Normally you would want to dump where it does not interfere in future activities like mooring ships there or anchoring in the harbor, deep water would be best.
John, don’t worry it would not be salvaged under water. Matter of fact that is a problem now, scrappers are even tearing sunk ships up and scrap them, ships that are considered as under water grave sites.
Here in the Philippines scrappers go as deep as 120 feet or so with a fridge pressure pump and an O2 hose tied around their waist and breath with that and salvage everything, that has been a problem here in Subic.
As a Navy diver here in Subic Bay we often treated victims of those scrapping operation for the bends and other diving problems.
Never saw pictures like that, thanks.
Karl
Zd811. PWs dump Japanese 37mm antitank guns into the North Harbor, Manila, Philippines, June 5, 1946
Much of the Japanese war armament from small firearms to tanks were disposed of this way.
Ordnance Disposal, US Signal Corp photo, Sucherman photographer, US National Archives.
John Tewell provided this picture with this URL:
www.flickr.com/photos/johntewell/48863881088/in/album-72157676432076268/
Zd812. Tanks to dump in bay for disposal, Manila, Philippines, March 1946
Tanks on a barge that will be towed out to sea for disposal.
Ordnance Disposal, Manila, Philippines.
Ordnance Disposal, US Signal Corp photo, US National Archives.
John Tewell provided this picture with this URL:
www.flickr.com/photos/johntewell/48873558873/in/album-72157676432076268/
The above two pictures were copied from John Tewell’s Flickr album: WWII, Manila, 3, click here:
www.flickr.com/photos/johntewell/albums/72157676432076268/with/48858171936/
The people of the Army Lt. Chester K. Britt Research Team forwarded me these pictures. They are planning to write a book about Army Lt. Chester K. Britt soon! Here is forum page about Army Lt. Chester K. Britt, click here:
corregidor.proboards.com/thread/2275/army-chester-britt-ship-oryoku
John Duresky wrote me this on the 24th Nov. 2020 about the two pictures above:
Was wondering if any divers ever located all these things, they were dumping in Manila Bay after the war? If these two photos are a sample, then somewhere at the bottom of Manila Bay must be a virtual mountain of discarded war materials.
Not only is war wasteful, but after war is pretty wasteful too. Why they couldn't transport those things back to the U.S. and donate to communities for war memorials and local museums is strange.
John
I answered him this way:
Hi John
My input.
It most likely would have cost money to hire ships to take the stuff back and then handle it there, not cost effective and a waste of time.
I don’t understand why they dumped it so close to piers, less the area was being filled in later as new land.
Normally you would want to dump where it does not interfere in future activities like mooring ships there or anchoring in the harbor, deep water would be best.
John, don’t worry it would not be salvaged under water. Matter of fact that is a problem now, scrappers are even tearing sunk ships up and scrap them, ships that are considered as under water grave sites.
Here in the Philippines scrappers go as deep as 120 feet or so with a fridge pressure pump and an O2 hose tied around their waist and breath with that and salvage everything, that has been a problem here in Subic.
As a Navy diver here in Subic Bay we often treated victims of those scrapping operation for the bends and other diving problems.
Never saw pictures like that, thanks.
Karl