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Post by Armyjunk 37 on Jun 6, 2015 10:39:26 GMT 8
1. 7.7mm Heavy Machine Gun Model 92 (1932) 2. 7.7mm Heavy Machine Gun Model 92 (1932) 3. 13mm A.A. Machine Gun Model 93 (1933) 4. 13mm A.A. Machine Gun Model 93 (1933) 5. M1916 Subcaliber Gun 6. Pedestal Mount, Machime Gun, cal. .50 M39 Navy designation Mk.21 7. 105mm Howitzer M3 8. 3inch M1861 Ordnance Rifle/Saluting Gun plus they have a 75mm pack Howitzer on the Parade and a 57mm AT Gun in the Museum, feel free to correct any mistakes
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Post by armyjunk 38 on Jun 6, 2015 10:43:09 GMT 8
I could be wrong on 3 and 4 but its my best guess.....
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Post by beirutvet on Jun 7, 2015 0:07:55 GMT 8
Hey Armyjunk
Thanks so much. So that is a 50 cal. I thought it looked a little small for that but I guess the ravages of time can do that.
That 7.7 Heavy Machine Gun Model 92, that was referred to as the Nambu, correct? And is the 13MM AA Gun also Japanese?
Got any more info on that M1916 subcaliber Gun? I presume it was ours based on the designation, but what was it used for and where would it be found while in use?
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Post by armyjunk on Jun 7, 2015 0:56:16 GMT 8
I believe the 8mm Pistol is referred to as the "Nambu" The 13mm would also be Japanese and they might not be the Model 93, odd mount, I could have these wrong.... If you search "subcaliber" in the forum here you find out all about subcaliber guns, basically a way to save wear on the main gun tube and also money firing smaller rounds
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Post by batteryboy on Jun 12, 2015 21:32:19 GMT 8
This was taken about around ten years ago when we were asked to examine weapons in the old Phil Air Force museum. When we charged the recoil mechanism and pressed the trigger, it makes that distinct sound of the recoil slamming and then hearing the click of the firing pin a split second later. This Type 92 seems may have been in firing condition. We just did not have the strip clips and ammo to test. The tripod is there but did not take a photo. B-boy with PAF Brig Gen (Ret) Ernesto "Ting" Aquino.
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Post by beirutvet on Jun 12, 2015 23:14:26 GMT 8
Armyjunk
Thanks for the clarification. Also was not aware of 'subcaliber' used back then.
Batterboy
Thanks for the pictures. Where is that museum you spoke of, is it worth the trip for someone on a limited time schedule?
BTW, love your new avatar, is that you at the ready years ago?
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Post by batteryboy on Jun 13, 2015 13:02:27 GMT 8
This was taken 10 years ago when we examined the arsenal at the Philippine Air Force Museum. This Japanese Type 92 MG was removed from its storage. Its shiny as it was just removed from its cosmoline wrap. I charged the recoil mechanism and then when I pressed the trigger, it made the distinctive slamming sound followed by the instant "click" of the firing pin. Seems this MG was still in firing condition. We just did not have the ammo and the strip to test. Its missing one wooden handle. The tripod is still present but did not take a photo. Together with me is Brig Gen (Ret) Ting Aquino of the PAF.
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Post by beirutvet on Jun 13, 2015 13:51:56 GMT 8
Batteryboy
EXO just posted something and had it disappear on him and so did I.
I just a few hours ago asked if that museum you mentioned is worth the trip for someone on a time constraint. It seems to have vanished just like his post on the guerrilla forces.
I also mentioned I like your new avatar. Is that you in younger years?
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Post by batteryboy on Jun 13, 2015 14:29:10 GMT 8
Hi Beirutvet,
Yes some post by me and EXO and now you have been missing. That is why this was reposted and another one in another topic. I believe he is investigating this.
Hahaha that is not me in the avatar. In my younger years we use to play with bamboo canons that made a loud bang when ignited with kerosene.
The new PAF museum is near Terminal 3 of NAIA but still inside the Villamor Airbase compound. Its a nice visit if you have time to spare. Some interesting items inside would be the personal items and weapon of Lt. Hiroo Onoda, the last Japanese straggler to surrender in the Philippines in 1974. The Type 92 MG is on display the last time I was there plus you can walk in the park where the old PAF aircraft (non-WWII) are on display.
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Post by one50 on Jul 4, 2015 11:56:55 GMT 8
beirutvet, I have been away from these boards for sometime. I think I need to get back into the groove Are those items near Battery Wheeler, Crockett or Geary? Or just randomly near the Cine?
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