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Post by Steve Kwiecinski on May 30, 2009 11:18:19 GMT 8
Hi guys,
One of the guides here says that the gun at Battery Hearn was initially a navy gun. Is this possible? Sounds crazy to me.
Steve
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Post by buster on May 30, 2009 11:29:21 GMT 8
Steve,
Really? I myself thought that Battery Hearn was from ancient Egypt or Mesopotamia. Perhaps the guide can back up his allegation of a NAVAL SOURCE with some form of a factual reference to a statement in a book, or a USN Model Number, Watervliet Arsenal barrel record or whatever. Let he who contends, commence by proof.
When he lays his facts on the table, THEN we can consider issues, trot out trunnion measurements, recoil mechanisms of the specific barbette carriage model etc.
Disturbing though, when you closely examine the source of "local knowledge."
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Post by EXO on May 30, 2009 12:15:17 GMT 8
Buster has no idea what he's talking about here, and is clearly wrong. Battery Hearn indeed has had a long, though not distinguished history with the US Navy, initially being launched as the USS Dreadnought in 1917. It was withdrawn from service when, by an unfortunate miscalculation of azimuth, it shelled Poughkeepsie, NY. (Source: Wikipedia.) It was, however, brought out of mothballs as the USS William Clinton, a coastal artillery support platform. Unfortunately, in what was to become a regrettable coincidence, it again shelled Poughkeepsie, NY. (Source: Wikipedia.) |
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Post by buster on May 30, 2009 12:35:08 GMT 8
What rubbish! Here's proof! Battery Hearn pictured on its annual off-season leave, taking in the sights in Egypt during the Six-Day Arab-Israel War. Btry Smith was unable to attend, it being a matter of some concern to Egyptian authorities that its barrel had been circumcised, and hence was an Israeli sympathizer.
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Post by fots2 on May 30, 2009 15:50:52 GMT 8
Unfortunately when you buy a license for Photoshop it determines 'who' can use it , not 'how' they use it... ;D
P.S. I wish I knew how to do that.
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Post by fots2 on May 30, 2009 16:03:29 GMT 8
The modified USS William Clinton after seas trials proved it was fond of “going down”.  |
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Post by mgk1951 on May 30, 2009 17:39:28 GMT 8
Hi Guys The US took a number of guns from Fort Wint to remount in fortifications in the US. They are now looked after by the US National Parks Service. However, who knew the US borrowed back Battery Hearn on a short term lease? Well they did and it was used to fire atomic artillery shells during 1953. It was returned to the original mount before the Philippines Army handed over Corregidor to the Philippines Department of Tourism. So, it was back in it's place ready for the tourists, without anyone knowing it had another life. Below is photographic evidence of the originally top secret atomic firings.  It was intended that two such pieces be so tested. However, the second gun, Battery Smith, was found to be too damaged to be used. I think this project was called Atomic Ranger 1. Regards mgk |
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Post by buster on May 30, 2009 20:23:31 GMT 8
Are you sure, Martin? What with all these sightings here and there of Battery Hearn, I am starting to wonder what it does in the non-tourist season, when there's no one around to look in on it. Could it be that Battery Hearn has a life of its own? Battery Hearn caught on a recent holiday in the UK. |
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Post by fots2 on May 30, 2009 20:26:43 GMT 8
mgk,
That project name sounds appropriate...I detect lots of hot air.
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Post by EXO on May 30, 2009 21:50:00 GMT 8
I have been thinking of how difficult it is to deal with some of the anecdotal stories(a.k.a. tall tales) that get thrown around about Corregidor, and how best to deal with the retelling of the more outlandish of them.
And, aside from an attack of whimsy, I haven’t got any solution.
If a guide comes up with some outrageous bit of bullsh, what can you do? They take it so personally if you tell them straight, and they take it so personally if you tell them indirectly. Too indirectly, they don’t get it at all.
Maybe one day there’ll be a written exam to be a guide, and a badge when they win thru to a higher level. Where is Battery Kysor on the map, mark it “K”. Mark where H Battery 60th CA were stationed. List two 50 calibre batteries. Who was Col. Bunker? How many paratroopers dropped on the second day? (None, it’s a trick question). Why did Btry Way cease firing? Where does Battery Hearn go during the rainy season? Where's Waldo?
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