I must admit that #1 of that collage has me a little baffled. The left part of the photo looks ok with Bottomside, the steep slope of the south side of Malinta Hill and Caballo Island in the distance.
The hospital/camp area looks to be on a flat grassy spot and the photograph was taken from a high angle. There is no "high up area on a flat spot" view just west of Bottomside north. I think this is the view from the south side of Malinta Hill looking down onto Bottomside south.
Also, the coastline heading west from Bottomside north (between Bottomside and the hospital in the photo) is not a sandy beach with waves like that. In reality it is narrow, rocky and curves in the opposite direction. The land along here is not flat either. The waves and sand looks like Black Beach at Bottomside south.
Has this photographer stuck portions of two negatives together to make a new but inaccurate photo?
Does anyone know the actual location of the earliest American hospital on Corregidor? Was it at Bottomside south which is #3 in the collage?
Photograph number 1 of the collage is indeed interesting. The only possible position for the camera setup would be on the coastal cliff towards Battery Point. The position of the tent hospital could be Engineers Ravine.
The north shore where the wharves are would have been different at the start of the 20th Century. The key shoreline change would have been the Coal Basin between Engineers Wharf and the North Mine Wharf.
The Coal Basin would have been built off the shoreline and in Corregidor Bay as it would have been flooded to prevent fire. The land ends of the wharves were built off shore and filled to match the Coal Basin. The Coal Basin was later filled, when power generation turned to diesel oil, creating the shoreline we know today.
The bay in photograph number 1 looks a lot more curved than it does today. The above may be the reason.
Tiyoalan, these are a nice set of photographs - thanks for posting.
The cliff distance from Bottomside north to the hospital/camp seems longer than the length of the Coal Basin area we know today but perhaps it is just a perspective thing. That and the steep angle down is really throwing me off.
If the photographer was using a wide angle lens it would distort the view. The addition of that basin would also change the coastal view considerably. Maybe this explains the curved bay we see in the photo.
Mapmaster, not knowing exactly where this hospital was, I think your suggestion that this is Engineer Ravine is very possible. It may take me a couple Red Horse beers to get it into focus though.
Here is another photograph of the same view and from the same era. It appears to have been taken from the same spot as the subject photograph number 1. It shows the same road along a cliff from San Jose heading west towards what would later be named Engineers Ravine.
The Coal Basin foreshore was about 60 metres into Corregidor Bay. Therefore, the coastline was radically changed after 1900.
We look at photos these days and assume that cameras of the last century were somehow primitive. They weren't. The truth was that their lenses and wet plate films were extraordinarily flexible, each being able to be adjusted on three axis basis. They could be adjusted to catch the most extraordinary angles, with deep perspectives and a few 'tricks' to boot.
gee, Fots, whatever you do, don't let us prevent your experimentation with red horse fueled photographic interpretation. I don't want to be partly responsible for someone not having a beer.
That other pic you posted is just a cropped version of the original photo, isn't it. The photographic 'trick' the photographer played on us with that was to give us a close-up point of view seemingly from hundreds of feet in the air from a viewpoint that wasn't there! I can't help but admire the photographers' craft of the era.
One of the more 'compact' camera kits, circa 1882. The J. H. Dallmeyer Ltd of London produced a wide-angle landscape camera in 1865.
EXO - the camera has undergone a lot of changes since the first quarter of the 19th Century, but the changes relate to portability, handling and processes. Photography became a business early and a hobby as soon as photography became affordable for the everybody.
It's great an unknown photographer placed their camera in such a position as to capture a photograph that would become meaningful to us 110 years later. It is good early photographs of Corregidor survive.
Fots2 - no problems, but I must confess I have a secret; I've redrawn the coastline of Corregidor, traced from a number of maps, so many times and have noted the changes from one map to the next.
It's a shame that most of the the glass plate photographs were recycled into greenhouses when the photographers found themselves strapped for cash. those glass plate images could be incredibly sharp and considering they were usually 5x7 inches, a lot of detail was lost just to keep tomatoes warm.
BLussier: I am the niece of Pvt. Robert D. Turner 13030357 listed as MIA on Corregidor. Still working with DPAA on Robert’s case. In the first entry on thread you mention a report and give info from Col. (Chaplain) Boerman that references cremating bodies in tunnel
Mar 6, 2021 10:58:01 GMT 8
BLussier: Is it possible to get a copy of that report? DPAA analyst never heard this before. I read the same info in a book. It was reported by a doc in the tunnel. Unfortunately I did not write the book title/ author info so can not use that info as evidence this
Mar 6, 2021 11:02:20 GMT 8
BLussier: is what could have happened to Robert’s body. Thank you! Bobbye (Turner) Lussier
Mar 6, 2021 11:04:28 GMT 8
raycoinhound: I sugest all members read this one!!!Fowlerville news and views 11/08/20 page 15.. The article shows Andy age 99 My mother Jackie age 95 and me in the middle age 68> . Andy saw all the paratroopers jump off his distroyer which shelled Corregdor in Feb 1945
Apr 20, 2021 12:06:19 GMT 8
raycoinhound: all members you better read this one.Fowlerville news & Views 11/08/20pg 15. Andy saw the 503 jump into battle on Corregidor. His Distroyer shelled the island and as soon as they stopped down came the 503rd!Andy is 99, my mother 95 and me 68.I take him out
Apr 20, 2021 12:09:58 GMT 8
raven316: Which tin can, my dad was on the USS Crosby, APD 17
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