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Post by The Phantom on Jul 24, 2015 5:49:48 GMT 8
Maybe new housing on the island in need of sturdy window frames? Some re-purposing going on I'm sure. Should be easy to spot in their new environment. I doubt if they were filled with the capiz type glass, but with real glass. Thanks for the update Karl.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Jul 26, 2015 16:28:55 GMT 8
THEN YOU SAW IT AND NOW YOU DO NOT! This is just an observation looking at pictures from different time frames. In earlier images we see something then in later ones those things are no more. This is in the Boiler Room of the Fort Mills Power and Cold Storage Plant on Corregidor Islands. In my last segment of the Basement under the Turbine Room, if you look close, one can observe that some solid steel brackets are gone that were there before. 4 more images were uploaded into this album; they are numbered 05 to 08: s74.photobucket.com/user/PI-Sailor/library/Corregidor%20by%20subject/CI%20Subalbum%20No%201/Scrapping%20continuous%20even%20today%202010?sort=9&page=1or tinyurl.com/ns776xqHere are the same 4 images but much smaller: X828 (05) this is an 18th Aug. 2008 image and it shows steel steps which ones were in use from the Boiler Room to the Turbine Room in the Fort Mills Power and Cold Storage Plant on Corregidor Islands. They are old and unusable now. X829 (06) this is also an 18th Aug. 2008 image and it shows steel steps which ones were in use from the Boiler Room to the Turbine Room in the Fort Mills Power and Cold Storage Plant on Corregidor Islands. This view also shows much of the Boiler Room. X830 (07) this view is from the 14th Apr. 2015 and the steel steps are completely gone. This is in the Boiler Room of the Fort Mills Power and Cold Storage Plant on Corregidor Islands. X831 (08) this is a new drawing we acquired from the Coastal Defense Study Group (CDSG) via armyjunk and the steps in question are marked as These Steps. This map was generated for the project to gas proof the plant which was not carried out.
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Post by cbuehler on Jul 28, 2015 6:36:18 GMT 8
It would appear in photo X830 that all the steel even on the window frames and elsewhere are gone, not just the stairs! What is happening? Is it scrappers or have they been removed for safety?
CB
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Post by Karl Welteke on Aug 10, 2015 13:42:00 GMT 8
THEN YOU SAW IT IN 2011 AND NOW WE DON’T IN 2015 This place is the Battery Control Station B-III-14 (B’’’14) on Geary Tail, very near and below and to the right of Battery Geary. That bracket in the first two pictures was still there in 2011 and on my return visit in 2015 it was gone. It is hard to imagine that intruders came by boat and ascended here at very difficult terrain at this high elevation. X922 this is Battery Control Station B-III-14 (B’’’14), shot on 2011-01-14. The long black arrows points at the now missing bracket. I have an album for this battery control station, 25 images: s74.photobucket.com/user/PI-Sailor/library/Corregidor%20by%20subject/Battery%20Controls/B-III-14%20Crofton?sort=9&page=1X923 this picture is also from that visit on 2011-01-14 and we have some VIPs with us, Paratrooper Adams who landed nearby here, Steve Kwiecinski (the resident on Corregidor) , Peter Parsons who was an eye witness the Corregidor POWs being marched on Dewey Ave. in 1942 and last but not least our own famous fots2 (John Moffitt). The bracket in the Control Station B-III-14 (B’’’14) is still in place. X924 this shot of the Battery Control Station B-III-14 (B’’’14) was from 2015-04-12. I put hat black arrow in place again like in the image X922 but that bracket is gone now. X925 another VIP visitor, Glen Williford, a leader in the Coastal Defense Study Group (CDSG) wanted to have a look at the Battery Control Station B-III-14 (B’’’14). On this day, 2015-04-12, the bracket was no longer there
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Post by Registrar on Aug 11, 2015 8:42:43 GMT 8
Rather damning, I'd say.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Sept 7, 2015 18:31:01 GMT 8
SCRAPPING ON MALINTA HILL BETWEEN 2009 AND 2015, WHEN? Recently when comparing relative recent pictures, we noticed that some rebar at some places in the ex Fort Mills on Corregidor Island has disappeared, it was in place 2009 for sure! This is the 5th time we noticed this in recent times but not because we are looking for that. Sometime it just jumps into your face accidental when we compare pictures. This time it is about an object on Malinta Hill, I call: “A Half Moon Tube like Concrete Shelter”; it is located above and in between Number 3 and 4 Navy tunnel entrances (counting left to right) on Malinta Hill, on Corregidor Island, of the 5 Navy Tunnel entrances we know of. It has angled openings which seem to be for electrical or electronic cable, so my guess is that it may have been used for radio purposes. Three pictures, numbered 09 to 011 have been uploaded into this album: s74.photobucket.com/user/PI-Sailor/library/Corregidor%20by%20subject/CI%20Subalbum%20No%201/Scrapping%20continuous%20even%20today%202010?sort=9&page=1The same 3 images are presented here but are much smaller. W91 this is a 2009-02-18 picture and I marked all the rebar that seems to be gone in my pictures from April 2015. This is what I call a Half Moon Tube like Concrete Shelter; it is located above and in between Number 3 and 4 Navy tunnel entrances in Malinta Hill, on Corregidor Island, of the 5 Navy Tunnel entrances we know of. W93 this picture was shot 2015-04-14, it is not close but no rebar can be seen that is in the previous image number W91 W94 this picture is also from 2015-04-14, it is too close but that rebar seen in image # W92 is not there anymore. This is what I call a Half Moon Tube like Concrete Shelter; it is located above and in between Number 3 and 4 Navy tunnel entrances in Malinta Hill, on Corregidor Island, of the 5 Navy Tunnel entrances we know of.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Oct 12, 2015 18:18:15 GMT 8
COMPARE THIS IMAGE WITH X751 IN THIS THREAD Something that was there in 2005 is gone in 2015! X751 (03) was shot on 20TH Jan. 2005. If you want to see it you got to click the thread and scroll up. This is the pump house at the topside 3 Million Gallon Water Reservoir and the window metal frames are still in place. I visited Corregidor on the 17th Sep 2015 and shot the below comparable image. The window metal frames are gone now, where did they go? I reported this before in this thread but I did not have a good comparable image, so hereby this is now corrected! W190 (03a) this is the pump house at the topside 3 Million Gallon Water Reservoir 2015 and the window metal frames are now gone. Note 1: The scrapping on Corregidor is also covered in corregidor.org web site: corregidor.org/chs_welteke/scrapping_report_1.htmNot 2: I have established an album about this subject some time ago: s74.photobucket.com/user/PI-Sailor/library/Corregidor%20by%20subject/CI%20Subalbum%20No%201/Scrapping%20continuous%20even%20today%202010?sort=9&page=1
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Post by Karl Welteke on Mar 3, 2016 20:40:29 GMT 8
SCAPPING NEVER STOPS I cannot help it, I take many pictures; again and again the pictures show steel brackets etc one year and in a later year they are gone. Here is another example: W686 (0d1) this is the left leg of the H-Shaped tunnel in the Engineering Ravine on Corregidor Island the former home of the Coastal Defense Fort Mills. This is a 2005 image. The left leg of the tunnel is concrete lined. Many brackets are visible in 2005. W688 (0e6) this is the left leg of the H-Shaped tunnel in the Engineering Ravine. You can see the H-cross section tunnel leg opening at right towards the rear. This is a 2016 image, the shelf braces are gone! W690 (0f1) looking into the cross section of the H-Shaped tunnel from the concrete lined left leg of the H-Shaped tunnel in the Engineering Ravine. This is a 2005 image. W689 (0e7) this is the left leg of the H-Shaped tunnel in the Engineering Ravine. You can see the H-cross section tunnel leg opening at right. This is a 2016 image, the shelf braces are gone!
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Post by cbuehler on Mar 4, 2016 2:00:32 GMT 8
Is this a joke? The Foundation or whatever organization that is responsible for the island is. Has any of this been addressed to the so called authorities? The scrappers are obviously stripping everything they can conveniently get their hands on (other than perhaps the heavily visited tourist spots) and nobody is doing anything about it. Can this really be accomplished without being seen or heard by somebody? I doubt it. Something stinks on Corregidor...
CB
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Post by EXO on Mar 5, 2016 19:17:22 GMT 8
i don't want to rain on anybody's parade but let me put it this way, CB, I have never met anyone on the island that would have sacrificed their paying job to stop scrapping. Scruples are fine if you have enough money in your pocket to get by tomorrow, but no one there does. Not nobody. Not ever. Close is no cigar. The only thing that ever would have preserved Corregidor would have been to have put it under the jurisdiction of the American Battle Monuments Commission. Like that's ever going to happen.
INTEGRITY IS LIKE ROCKETSHIP UNDERPANTS.
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