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Post by fots2 on Dec 9, 2010 9:33:40 GMT 8
Chances are pretty good that the artist reads the same book that you guys do.
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Post by okla on Dec 9, 2010 9:46:54 GMT 8
Hey Tiyo.....That is absolutely wild. Even includes the rolled up dungarees. Good job, methinks. Cheers.
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Post by chadhill on Dec 20, 2010 10:34:12 GMT 8
Here's a better view of the sailor and tunnel: Okla, in the other photo which showed both men, I thought I could see traces of railroad rails on the floor of the tunnel entrance. As Fots pointed out, there were no rails to the CAST tunnel, so that would have axed your theory. But we can see here that is not the case. There even seem to be planks on the entrance floor. One of the sandbags appears to be stencilled "OLD MISSION". The shadows of camouflage nets can easily be seen. I have learned that the photo was taken by war correspondent Melville Jacoby. I don't know when he left Corregidor, but on 29 April 42 he was unfortunately standing next to Brigadier General Harold H. George at Twenty Seven Mile airfield outside Darwin, Australia. George, who had shot down five German aircraft in WW1, was on MacArthur's staff and had just landed in a Lockheed C-40, a military version of the Electra. A P-40 went out of control during takeoff, and in the ensuing crash bystanders Jacoby and George were killed.
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Post by okla on Dec 20, 2010 23:18:30 GMT 8
Hey Chad....Thanks for the much clearer pic of the Navy sentry at CAST. You have rekindled my memory concerning Mel Jacoby's death. Being an avid reader of Life Magazine as a kid back during WW 2, I recall his unfortunate death being announced by the editors of said periodical. Since the only Generals my young mind thought existed were MacArthur and Wainwright, Genl George's death didn't register in my memory. Of the two mentioned Generals we all know who got top billing due to the method and way the PIO was handled in those hectic days. Cheers.
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Post by fots2 on Dec 22, 2010 22:47:37 GMT 8
From time to time I find or receive information that is new to me. Often it changes my opinion as to what I thought was correct. This time it involves the correct name of the Navy Radio Intercept Tunnel near Monkey Point.
The information comes from the 1983 book ‘INTERCEPT STATION “C” From Olongapo through the Evacuation of Corregidor’. This is a very detailed book written with the involvement of the US Naval Security Group Command and the National Cryptologic Veterans Association etc. Other than just historical facts it also contains numerous personal accounts of CAST personnel. These are first-hand accounts from people directly involved on Corregidor. I can think of no better sources.
When speaking about the Navy tunnel at Monkey Point, it appears that Major Wilson, who wrote the above tunnels status report, used the Station name instead of the Tunnel name. From the book, here is what I expect (hope) is the final story on at least this tunnel:
“The Secretary of War informed the Secretary of the Navy that the Commanding General, Philippine Department had been authorized to begin work on the construction of the tunnel for the Radio Intercept Tunnel.
By August 31st 1939, the following projects were identified: Project AFIRM , the Radio Intelligence Tunnel Project BAKER, the Direction Finder Site Project CAST, the quarters of the personnel for Station “C”.
In early October 1939, Project Afirm was given the official title of “Navy Emergency Radio Station” as part of its cover story. On October 17th 1939, CAST became operational on Corregidor”.
So the correct name of the Navy Radio Intercept Tunnel is AFIRM.
That also means two Navy tunnels on Corregidor were named AFIRM (Monkey Point) and AFFIRM (Malinta Hill).
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Post by armyjunk on Dec 23, 2010 11:36:30 GMT 8
i thought we had the tunnel names straighten out
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Post by fots2 on Dec 23, 2010 11:59:00 GMT 8
1 - Read the above information and give me your opinion.
2 - Do you have anything in your archive to add to it?
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Post by armyjunk on Dec 23, 2010 12:01:40 GMT 8
Queen Complete: Constructed foundation for engine. Constructed foundations for oil and water tanks. Approximately 100% complete: Tunnel excavation, concrete, and steel. Approximately 7% complete: Tunnel backfill. this is Queen I'm 99% sure it has Generator pad and the Day Tank for the engine is still mounted on bulkhead. let me read the rest while your here....
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Post by armyjunk on Dec 23, 2010 12:25:24 GMT 8
I think it gets pretty confusing, easy to confuse Station C with tunnel AFIRM......But I think you have it correct. I did have a very good drawing of the Intercept tunnel I think you have already posted it here somewhere, has compass directions and measurements on it.
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Post by fots2 on Dec 23, 2010 15:20:32 GMT 8
Regarding your photo, I agree with everything you say about what is in that tunnel and that this is most likely Queen.
Why do you let Air Force guys in Navy tunnels??? ;D
(sorry okla, just a bad joke)
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