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Post by okla on Mar 19, 2011 5:11:35 GMT 8
Hey Fots...Couldn't help but wonder if "MAJ White, Walter A., is our allusive CPT from the tunnel alcove who has been promoted one grade prior to the compilation of the data base??? Just another of my infamous "shots in the dark". He did make it out of the prison pen alive, so it could have happened, I suppose.
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Post by fots2 on Mar 19, 2011 8:45:18 GMT 8
Okla, that certainly makes sense to me. Perhaps a Captain. (at the time) in the QMC had the resources and enough authority to get these little tunnels built.
This guy is most likely our Cpt. W. White
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Post by fots2 on Nov 6, 2011 8:19:18 GMT 8
The Middleside Barracks Part 2Day after day, tour busses drive beside two long concrete ruins called the Middleside Barracks. They stop for a moment, take their quota of photos and then move on. No mention is ever made of two more barracks in the same row. Now some people might be saying, “What other barracks?” Actually, Middleside Barracks consisted of four buildings but only two were shown in the first part of this trip report. I expect there are two reasons for the other buildings not being well known. First, they were of wood construction and no wood remains today. Second, only the area around the concrete buildings has been cleared of trees and vegetation. Where the wooden buildings were located is totally out of sight from the road. Hidden among the bushes and trees you can see various concrete remnants however there is not really much remaining of these buildings. Just to complete the Middleside Barracks story, here are a few photos of what were two wooden structures adjacent to the other structures seen in the first part of this report. Corregidor 1932 map showing all four of the Middleside Barracks structures. Aerial Photo of the same location. The wooden structures are indicated in red. (Feb. 6th 1945 photo from Dan’s Collection) The easiest way to approach the wooden barracks is to walk past the concrete barracks and head directly into the jungle. This view shows the road at the north (front side) of the concrete barracks. The first thing you will notice is a rock and concrete embankment which was beside a road on the south side of the structures. There are a couple damaged sections but the embankment is mostly intact. Very soon you can make out concrete foundations with metal anchors. These two barracks were not supported by pedestals which was a common practice for wooden structures. The floors and foundations sat directly on the ground. I did not see (nor fall into) any type of basements. The reason that no trees have grown in this open area is because it is a leaf and vine covered concrete floor. The horizontal lines you see are concrete bases for interior walls. Another section of the embankment. A big concrete tub may have held water. It has a hole near the top for a tap and a drain hole on the bottom. This open manhole adjacent to one of the barracks appears to have been used for drainage along the road. In the past Phantom has mentioned the lack of a visible sewage system at many locations. I do not know why but the same goes for here too. I expect this was trim for a walkway outside the barracks. This little trip was a break from just guns, defenses and tunnels. There is not much to see here but it is still history. Those of us that wander around ‘off-road’ often find structures that are not on the 1936 map. It makes this island all the more interesting.
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Post by okla on Nov 6, 2011 23:29:24 GMT 8
Hey Fots....This is excellent stuff (as usual). I was beginning to experience early signs of needing a "fix". Methinks, Middleside was overdue for some exposure. The "crown jewell" of Corregidor, the "mile long barracks", has always received top billing and it was time, methinks, for a bit of TLC for the "poor relative" down the hill. For too many folks, a lot of this area is just debris,etc, but to us "Geeks" it is history at our finger tips. Who knows what lurks beneath the leaves and bushes of the "Rock". Cheers. Postscript...An extra thank you for including those diagrams/aerial shots. They bring much added clarity to what we are seeing, lay of the land, etc.
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Post by beirutvet on May 14, 2015 9:42:25 GMT 8
Fots2, Hello again.
I stopped dead in my tracks when you showed the steps leading down from the road with this caption; "The road to Topside passes by the top of the steps. At the bottom of the steps was a walkway over to the third floor of the barracks."
Just a few days ago I was looking at other trip reports and was fascinated by Armyjunks posting of the photos in the thread "trip to Corregidor in 1949." It started out with so many pre-war photos of Corregidor, but then it started what was a collection of what seemed like a collection of a large large family or group who visited the island via a yacht named 'Margaret'.
In the collection there was a photo that stumped me. It was photos 14, 21 and 40 in that collection. It was a photo of what seemed like a bridge or walkway that had seen better days indeed, but what was odd was that it looked like the bridge went into a Middleside/Mile long barracks style building, but I had never seen this approach to either of those barracks.
Could I please ask you to look at the 1949 collections photos #14, 21 and 40? Could this be what was left of that walkway from those steps to Middleside barracks?
looking forward to your reply.
Regards
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Post by fots2 on May 14, 2015 10:17:16 GMT 8
beirutvet, I thought I was losing it, there are more than one set of 14, 21 and 40 photos in that thread. The ones you are referring to are at the bottom. Yes, the walkway you see in all three of those photos is the walkway from the road over to the 3rd floor of Middleside Barracks.
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Post by domack on May 15, 2015 4:46:43 GMT 8
Middleside barracks tunnel mystery. My guess is a Access tunnel for pluming that may have been expanded at one time... With concrete floors a foot thick you'd need access to be able to fix the pipes otherwise they have to tear the floor up which is not practical.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Aug 2, 2018 15:17:52 GMT 8
Middleside Barracks, as some of them looked 2018-07-06 On the 6th to the 8th July 2018 I visited Corregidor and so far I only documented my first walk on the 6th of July. Here are 5 images: Zc391. 0ne of five images of my walk from Bottomside up to Battery Cheney on Corregidor Island, the former Fort Mills in WWII, 2018-07-06, this is the more southern Middle Side Barracks. Zc392. 0ne of five images of my walk from Bottomside up to Battery Cheney on Corregidor Island, the former Fort Mills in WWII, 2018-07-06, this is the more southern Middle Side Barracks. Look at them goats cutting the grass, good job you goats! Zc393. 0ne of five images of my walk from Bottomside up to Battery Cheney on Corregidor Island, the former Fort Mills in WWII, 2018-07-06, this is the more northern Middle Side Barracks. Zc394. 0ne of five images of my walk from Bottomside up to Battery Cheney on Corregidor Island, the former Fort Mills in WWII, 2018-07-06, this is the more northern Middle Side Barracks. This is where the bridge was where Steve Kwiecinski's father sometime slept. Zc395. 0ne of five images of my walk from Bottomside up to Battery Cheney on Corregidor Island, the former Fort Mills in WWII , 2018-07-06, this is the more northern Middle Side Barracks. If you like to look at all the pictures of this walk, either click on my web page with 63 Images: philippine-sailor.net/walk-to-battery-cheney-2018-07-06/Or my Photobucket album with 66 images: app.photobucket.com/u/PI-Sailor/a/80c4ba95-d2eb-44ee-9bcf-c6feeee68440
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Post by Karl Welteke on Jul 3, 2022 14:36:39 GMT 8
Middleside Barracks 2022-06-14 These are 11 images of the former Fort Mills Middleside Barracks on Corregidor. There are two long barracks and the run on more or less from a SE point to NW point axis. I will call them the south and the north Middleside Barracks. These 11 images were shot in sequence from the SE end of the South barracks to the NW end of the north barracks and they were all shot from the road side. One thing that is most noteworthy is that the Corregidor Foundation Inc (CFI) is certainly trying to keep the growing vegetation under control, when you look at the images that should be noted! This is the same image description for all 11 images: This is one of 11 images of the former Fort Mills Middleside Barracks on Corregidor shot on the 14th June 2022. These 11 images were shot in sequence from the SE end of the South barracks to the NW end of the north barracks and they were all shot from the road side. One thing that is most noteworthy is that the Corregidor Foundation Inc (CFI) is certainly trying to keep the growing vegetation under control, when you look at the images that should be noted! Below is a list of URLs with pictures of the Fort Mills Middleside Barracks on Corregidor: Middleside Barracks, forum, this was started by fots2 and has many pages now. corregidor.proboards.com/thread/858/middleside-barracksOn-going Clean-up at Middleside Barracks, this forum page has heted arguments about the maintenance of the Middleside Barracks: corregidor.proboards.com/thread/133/on-clean-middleside-barracksMiddleside Barracks Field Note, an outstanding,short and informative report on the Middleside Barrack from fots2: corregidor.org/fieldnotes/htm/fots2-101210.htmMiddleside Barracks from Tom Aring at K’s PhB, a short report after a storm: app.photobucket.com/u/PI-Sailor/a/f1f2de3a-6bf1-4093-a954-3c31651d22ddPeople on Corregidor 2009, K’s PhB, it has some pictures of the Middleside Barracks: app.photobucket.com/u/PI-Sailor/a/3dfb51d3-4496-4e09-b7a2-312cff0d56faMiddlesideBarracks 2004 & 2006 from Karl’s PhB (pictures): app.photobucket.com/u/PI-Sailor/a/3dfb51d3-4496-4e09-b7a2-312cff0d56faFaces on Corregidor, 5 pics,K’s PhB (Pictures): app.photobucket.com/u/PI-Sailor/a/7f7f82ca-c85e-4524-a96d-9fc9567a7fdfA walk to Cheney passed Middleside Barracks, a few pics, K’s web: philippine-sailor.net/walk-to-battery-cheney-2018-07-06/A walk to Cheney passed Middleside Barracks, a few pics, K’s PhB. app.photobucket.com/u/PI-Sailor/a/80c4ba95-d2eb-44ee-9bcf-c6feeee68440Uploaded 11 images to Photobucket, Corregidor Visits, CI 2022-06-14 Visit: app.photobucket.com/u/PI-Sailor/a/8aea845e-22fa-4f8c-8848-3d83f3475b15
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Post by Karl Welteke on Mar 13, 2024 14:02:14 GMT 8
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