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Post by EXO on Oct 7, 2011 21:17:33 GMT 8
Nothing wrong with your math, Fots, it's acute.
There's an old parlor trick, about how no matter what number you might start with, I can make you answer "five."
(Think of a number, then double it , add 10, half it, take the number you first thought of away. What are you left with?)
Fare pricing's got nothing to do with fair pricing. It is a parlor trick where the outcome - no matter what you start with - is pre-ordained. Bring the Vaseline.*
(Also lately perfected by Airlines.)
Regards, ExO
Footnote: Q?: Did you hear about the young married couple who got Vaseline and putty mixed up? A: All the windows in their house fell out.
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Post by tomasctt on Oct 9, 2011 21:07:11 GMT 8
Hi Karl, when are you planning to go to Corregidor from Mariveles?
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Post by Karl Welteke on Feb 1, 2013 13:12:27 GMT 8
The latest in regards to Boats to Corregidor as of 18th Jan. 2013 per my experience: I visited Corregidor on Monday the 14th Jan 2013 for a four nights. I used the Sun Cruises Ferry from Mariveles as advertised in the reply of the 7th Oct. 2011 in this thread. I went to the FAB HQ to buy the ticket but was told to buy it from the FAB attendee who will show up at the ferry landing at the Rouvia Port Complex before departure. I bought the one way ticket to Corregidor for 250 peso. That went fine but the gangways to the inboard boat and the Sun Cruises boat, outboard, were unsatisfactory. Sun Cruises used a smaller boat today, the Sole Cruiser, an officer told the ride this morning from Manila was somewhat rough, strong NE winds. From Mariveles to Corregidor was not too bad, but because of the size of the ferry and the rough seas they landed on the South Dock. Per my plan I wanted to go home of Friday the 18th. Since I had parked my car in Mariveles and took the Sun Cruises ferry to Corregidor on Monday I would have liked to go back via Bataan. Coming from Olongapo that is ideal for me. On this trip, I learned, that the Sun Cruises ferry go to Mariveles via Corregidor only on Mondays. 2011 into 2012 it was Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Going back to Manila with the afternoon ferry was not ideal, since I also had to go back to Mariveles to pick up my car. So I asked Villa Carmen for a boat that cost me 3000 peso. They will not let me ride back with another tourist visitor boat and flatly told me “I have to order a separate boat”. The NE winds were strong all week but today the North Channel looked even rougher. But Villa Carmen has good boats and good crews and they showed up promptly. 3000 pesos is just a little too much for me but nothing like being home early . Here is more I learned about the boat situation. Again it is hard to get precise info from Sun Cruises or FAB over the telephone. FAB is the Freeport Area of Bataan in Mariveles. Here is a news report in regards to the ferry: www.facebook.com/notes/fab-fair-10/afab-announces-new-ferry-schedules/236728863012890The schedule image from this URL is posted below here. What I learned, Mondays the Corregidor Sun Cruises ferry will continue to Mariveles and in the afternoon about 1345 Hours will go back to Manila via Corregidor. On Friday another boat and maybe another company runs a ferry from Manila direct to Mariveles and back in the afternoon, direct (not via Corregidor)! Here is a related story. On Corregidor someone operates a big boat, a 45 passenger capacity boat, which is really a good deal if one has a large party to visit the island. This boat is described in the letter reply, dated 23rd Feb 2011, from Lt. Col. Matibag to me, It is in this thread above here. But now the Coast Guard enforces a law that that size of boat needs a properly licensed boat skipper (elaborate to achieve). So, for right now, that boat service is not available right now. I have a bad and a nice story in regards to this 45 seat boat. About 1 ½ year ago when the Sun Cruises boat schedule was still the 3 days MWF, I arrived Monday and wanted to leave on Friday. But with my luck the Sun Cruises cancelled the ferry on-ride to Mariveles so I was stuck on Corregidor. There was nothing Sun Cruises was able or willing to for me and I even had a round ticket. They didn’t even say they are sorry. But here arrived that 45 seat boat from Bataan, with German tourists no less. I asked the boat management and the German passengers whether I could catch a ride back with them after their tour. Both parties were willing. CFI even let me be the Corregidor tour guide to these German passengers. That was enjoyable, since I’m an ex German and still a German native speaker. Here are some images from that port: 2013-Jan.-14 Sun Cruises M/V Sole Cruiser, the small boat is outboard. The inboard vessel is under repair by the Rouvia Boat and Yacht Yard in the Rouvia Port Complex. 2013-Jan.-14 Close-up of the Sun Cruises M/V Sole Cruiser outboard. 2013-Jan.-14. Across the pier is the ferry passenger waiting area. 2013-Jan.-14. The unsatisfactory gang plank from the pier to the inboard boat. 2013-Jan.-14. The pier were the ferry ties up. It gives you an idea how far one is from the shore line. The only new and revised schedule I could find on the www. BUT DISREGARD IT, ONLY USE THE TELEPHONE NUMBER TO INQUIRE. 2013-Jan.-14. The map of the Mariveles ferry landing in the Rouvia Port Complex.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Jun 15, 2016 16:34:22 GMT 8
The Boat service to Corregidor from Bataan as I know it and as of June 2016A friend recently asked me what is the latest on boat service to Corregidor from Bataan. I wrote the below and added two Google Earth map images to help you to locate the sites. The images are high resolution and you can zoom in! Boats (outrigger bancas) are available in Cabcaben for about 3000 peso a boat that can carry about 6 Caucasians. They drive you to Corregidor in about 45 minutes and wait for you for a reasonable time like about 6 hours. I have no phone number, it is village COOP operation. Boats are also available at Villa Carmen, for the same price, I prefer them. I have a name-Imelda-and cell phone number-0920 648 0486- for texting only. From outside the Philippines the country code is 63 and do not use that first zero in this number given. Third and best option, this boat is a big one and carries 30+ people, is more comfortable and is so safer. The last time I checked it cost 3500 peso. This is the number 0916 306 3693 and you can talk and text, remember the #63 Philippine country code and leave the first zero out, calling from outside the Philippines. The boat comes from Corregidor, is owned by private people but the telephone number is to the Corregidor on-island manager Mr. Ron. Benadero. The boat lands and picks up passengers at Camaya Point and will bring you back at the end of your tour. That name Camaya Point is not on my maps but I indicated the site on the attached Google Earth image. Once on the island you got to pay 200 peso entrance fee per head. From Mr. Ron Benadero or his staff you can rent a jeepney with driver for about 2 hours, 800 peso and you can tell him where you like to go or follow his route, he will take you to all the open tourist sites. If you have a large group of visitors a bus is also available. W891 these are the locations of the boat landings in Cabcaben and Villa Carmen. W850 shows the location of the Camaya Point landing where the Corregidor Island boat picks up people and it also gives you a wider geographic view.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Jul 1, 2016 13:09:40 GMT 8
INFORMATION SIGN To RENT A BIG BOAT TO CORREGIDOR. W882 (G3) on the shoreline near the North Mine Dock, Bottomside, on Corregidor Island is this advertisement how to get in contact for service of these 3 boats. This is the first time that I saw an email address. This is a Feb. 2016 image. W883 (G4) zoomed in, on the shoreline near the North Mine Dock, Bottomside, on Corregidor Island is this advertisement how to get in contact for service of these 3 boats. This is the first time that I see an email address. This is a Feb. 2016 image.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Jan 17, 2017 9:03:21 GMT 8
The other vehicles and boats on Corregidor
I mean the others, than the Sun Cruises trolleys and vehicle transportation for the Corregidor Inn guests.
I have often said that Corregidor visitors that come by other boat transportation than the Sun Cruises ferry can rent jeepney, a bus and boats (especially a large one) from the Corregidor Foundation Inc (CFI).
That is false and I stand corrected!
The other vehicles on Corregidor belong and are operated by Prime Square Ent. which also owns the three (3) large big boats (banca) which operate from Corregidor Island to MAAP Pier in Brgy. Alas-Asin, Mariveles.
The Executive Director and Trusty of CFI, LTCOL. Artimo G. Matibag, wrote me the below on the 16th Jan 2017.
Dear Karl, Corregidor Foundation, Inc. (CFI) has no jeepney and buses on Corregidor Island. They are owned and operated by Prime Square Ent. (PSE) who also owned and operates three (3) big boats (banca) from Corregidor Island to MAAP Pier in Brgy. Alas-Asin, Mariveles. Hire is handled by them and just coordinated by Mr. Ron Benadero (CP#0916-3063693)
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Post by Karl Welteke on Mar 12, 2017 11:54:49 GMT 8
Boat rides to Corregidor from Bataan. Visitors that come to Corregidor by small boat, other than the Sun Cruises ferry are called Walk-ins, they still have to pay a 200 peso entrance fee, per head and arrange with the Corregidor Foundation Inc staff, transportation and a guide if desired. Otherwise you may walk on your own. Advantages: No hassle going thru Manila No hassle with Manila taxies. Save a lot of time going and coming to the Manila ferry terminal from the north. You can tailor the sites you want to see somewhat cheaper. (That is the reason I go this way, even though it is much more expensive to me, the cost of boats) Disadvantages There is always a bigger risk crossing over to Corregidor with a smaller water craft vice the larger Sun Cruises ferry. The small boats from Cabcaben charge 3000 peso for the round trip and they wait for you. I have to pay the 3000 peso twice because I usually stay longer than one day, that means they drop me off and then I arrange to pick me up a day or more later. They take about 5 foreigners as passenger, so you can split the 3000 peso fare. Stepping ashore on Corregidor from these small boats is difficult due no adequate landing site, or the boats stationed on Corregidor are blocking the way to land more safely. Here are some images of recent trips: V619. One of the Villa Carmen Boats, the villa is located south of Cabcaben Town proper. It is really located at the SE corner of Bataan. V620. The Villa Carmen crews are launching our boat on the 15th Feb 2017. I usually arrive in slippers but they do provide a gangway to enter the boat without getting your shoes wet. This photo is from Harald Klose, my companion. V621. The boat crew consists of two, here the bow hook is pushing the boat in the right direction and into deeper water. This photo is from Harald Klose, my companion. V622. We are almost across. The water was rough because at this time of the year, Dec to March, the strong NE winds prevail. But crossing to Corregidor today, the wind and swells come from the port quarter (left rear end of the boat) so we stayed dry. I crossed about 40 times (round trips) with these boats and I am convinced the boat crews know what they are doing. The trip is about 30 to 50 minutes. This photo is from Harald Klose, my companion. V623. We are approaching the sea wall between the North Mine Dock and the Eng. Dock on the north shore of Corregidor Island, the former Fort Mills. V624. We have landed at the sea wall between the North Mine Dock and the Eng. Dock on the north shore of Corregidor Island, the former Fort Mills. This is the 17th Dec. 2016, by the way that is EXO stepping ashore; he also travelled with his shoes off. As you can see the landing site is not the best and there is the Manila Bay trash problem. V625. This picture is from Harald Klose, my companion and was shot on the 16th Feb. 2017. The weather is still windy and this boat will take on the seas from the stbd bow (right front end of the boat). The people are Corregidor staff members and have reason to leave the island. They expect to get wet and wrapped themselves. When we left the Villa Carmen boat crew had a tarpaulin to protect us and the gear. V626. This is a close up of the last image. This picture is from Harald Klose, my companion and was shot on the 16th Feb. 2017. The weather is still windy and this boat will take on the seas from the stbd bow (right front end of the boat). The people are Corregidor staff members and have reason to leave the island. They expect to get wet and wrapped themselves. When we left the Villa Carmen boat crew had a tarpaulin to protect us and the gear. V627. This is the same boat as in the last two pictures; this picture is from Harald Klose, my companion and was shot on the 16th Feb. 2017. Harald is standing on the North Mine Dock and is getting a last shot of the boat heading into the Manila Bay North Channel, heading to Cabcaben. V628. This is a wide shot and covers the area where most small boats land on Corregidor, coming from Bataan. This was also shot on the 16th Feb. 2017. The 3 yellow crafts are permanent moored here and two smaller boats just arrived or depart and they have to maneuver over their mooring lines. This is inside the North Mine Dock.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Mar 18, 2017 15:31:56 GMT 8
Prices of the boats that come from Corregidor to Bataan to pick you up. Friends Recently I was asked what is the cost of these boats which are stationed on Corregidor Island. I answered as long as I remember, let’s say 5 years back, I always was quoted 3500 peso. I visited Corregidor again from the 14th March to the 16th March; I picked up a brochure at the Corregidor reception/admin building. That brochure advertises this service; it has information in front and back. This brochure answers the question and it is 3500 peso. I noticed the Jeepney fare for two hours has been increased from 800 to 1000 peso. I hope you will visit Corregidor sometime. Regards Karl PS 1: The boat service from the Boat COOP in Cabcaben, Bataan is a different service. I usually use the boats from the Villa Carmen, Cabcaben which is a member of the COOP. They charge me 3000 peso for a roundtrip to and back if on the same day. But I usually stay longer than one day on Corregidor and have to pay two times 3000 peso. The president of the COOP told me also, it is 3000 peso, that was about 4 years ago. But when I talked to different boat people in Cabcaben I got quotes of 3500 or even 4000 peso. During my last visit, the 15th March 2017, I talked to a visitor who used a Cabcaben COOP boat, that he paid 3500 peso and he was a well travelled local person. PS 2: Will be absent from the internet for 5 days and 4 nights, will travel with a friend to the Cordillera, Dalton/Balete Pass, Villa Verde Trail, Gen Yamashita’s surrender site, Banaue, Bontoc, Baguio etc. V631. The front side of the brochure at the Corregidor reception/admin building. That brochure advertises this service; it has information in front and back. This brochure answers the question and it is 3500 peso. V632. The back side of the brochure at the Corregidor reception/admin building. That brochure advertises this service; it has information in front and back. This brochure answers the question and it is 3500 peso. V633. Here are the 3 boats as advertised on the brochure at the Corregidor reception/admin building. These boats are moored inboard of the North Mine Dock, north shore of Bottomside on Corregidor. This is a 15th Feb. 2016 image. V634. This is the Camaya Point landing where the boats will pick you up. This is a 24th July 2010 image.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Mar 10, 2018 19:27:46 GMT 8
The Other Way to go to Corregidor from Bataan. It is cheaper if you are a large group; they charged us 3500 Peso (per boat-not the person) for a roundtrip. That is also true when we stay several days. We paid the fee upon arrival and at our return we DID NOT have to pay more or again! It is safer because it is a large boat, a lot bigger than the boats from Villa Carmen or the boats from Barangay Cabcaben. When we used it on the 13th of Feb. 2018 the Sun Cruises Ferry run was cancelled because of the weather, the next day they cancelled it again because of the rough seas. But our boat, manned by a crew who know their business gave a smooth and safe crossing on the Manila Bay North Channel. It is a lot more convenient if you come from north of Manila, we all know about the Manila traffic situation! I prepared 14 images and will present it in two segments. This segment with 7 images gives you the information and location. Za659. Camaya Point or MAAP Pier at the bottom of Bataan. Our group of Corregidor Friends arrived and we are proceeding to the Corregidor Boat. There is no specific parking but residents offered to watch my car and I took them up on it. Za660. The El Corregidor Boat at Camaya Point or MAAP Pier at the bottom of Bataan. Our group of Corregidor Friends arrived and we are boarding the Corregidor Boat “El Corregidor”. Za661. The Corregidor Boat “El Corregidor” is departing from Camaya Point or MAAP Pier at the bottom of Bataan. In the Navy we called that man “the Bow Hook” and he had a boathook to handle that task. Here in the Philippines a longer bamboo stick is needed because the boats usually land on the beach or go bow on to the pier. Za662. Boat (Banca) Terminal on Corregidor North Shore Bottomside. This is where boats normally land on Corregidor. This is a Feb. 2014 image. Za663. Boat Information Sign at the Boat Terminal on Corregidor North Shore Bottomside. Za664. Boat Information Sign at the Boat Terminal on Corregidor North Shore Bottomside, zoomed in. Za665. Map showing location of Camaya Point or MAAP Pier from Google Earth.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Mar 11, 2018 17:30:37 GMT 8
The Other Way to go to Corregidor from Bataan. 2nd of two segments. It is cheaper if you are a large group; they charged us 3500 Peso (per boat-not the person) for a roundtrip. That is also true when we stay several days. We paid the fee upon arrival and at our return we DID NOT have to pay more or again! It is safer because it is a large boat, a lot bigger than the boats from Villa Carmen or the boats from Barangay Cabcaben. When we used it on the 13th of Feb. 2018 the Sun Cruises Ferry run was cancelled because of the weather, the next day they cancelled it again because of the rough seas. But our boat, manned by a crew who know their business gave a smooth and safe crossing on the Manila Bay North Channel. It is a lot more convenient if you come from north of Manila, we all know about the Manila traffic situation! I prepared 14 images and will present it in two segments. This 2nd segment with 7 images shows you the transit trip across the North Channel. Za666. Motor boat El. Corregidor with Passengers 2018-02-13 Za666. The passengers on the this El Corregidor boat on our way to Corregidor on the 13th of Feb. 2018 are left to right: John Byrne- an Australian who came with the webmaster; Harald Klose-a retired German Army Officer who accompanied me for the 5th time now for the commemoration; Gary Vodika from Texas; an unknown person to us who hitched a ride and the last p[person is Mr. Paul Whitman, an Australian and the webmaster of the huge and very great corregidor.org/ webpage. Za667. Motor boat El. Corregidor is crossing the Manila Bay North Channel towards Corregidor on 2018-02-13. Za668. Motor boat El. Corregidor is crossing the Manila Bay North Channel towards Corregidor on 2018-02-13. Za668. The Sun Cruises Ferry run was cancelled today because of the weather, the next day they cancelled it again because of the rough seas. But our boat, manned by a crew who know their business gave a smooth and safe crossing on the Manila Bay North Channel. The weather was in North Mindanao but reached all the way up here. Corregidor Friend John Moffitt was lucky getting on Corregidor yesterday, the ferry did run yesterday. Another friend was scheduled to come today but missed out today and tomorrow, we met up on 2018-02-15. Za669. Motor boat El. Corregidor is crossing the Manila Bay North Channel towards Corregidor on 2018-02-13. Za669. It is heading towards the north shore of Bottomside on Corregidor Island, the former Fort Mills which is now the home of the Pacific War Memorial. Za670. Motor boat El. Corregidor is crossing the Manila Bay North Channel towards Corregidor on 2018-02-13. Za670. It is heading towards the north shore of Bottomside on Corregidor Island, the former Fort Mills which is now the home of the Pacific War Memorial. Malinta Hill is on our port bow. One of the amazing stories is that on the day of the assault two infantry companies captured the west side and the top of the hill without casualties running up there like hell. But the next few nights had to fight for their life and defended it successful. Za671. Motor boat El. Corregidor is crossing the Manila Bay North Channel towards Corregidor on 2018-02-13. Za670. It is heading towards the north shore of Bottomside on Corregidor Island, the former Fort Mills which is now the home of the Pacific War Memorial. The Eng. Ravine and the Engineering Wharf are off our stbd. bow. Za672. Motor boat El. Corregidor is approaching the banca (boat) terminal on Corregidor on 2018-02-13. [/IMG] Za672. The banca terminal is located inshore of the North Mine Dock at Bottomside. That boat landing dock, we are approaching, is a new improvement that was constructed by the Corregidor Foundation Incorporated (CFI) recently.
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