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Post by darthdract on May 20, 2012 15:22:11 GMT 8
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Post by chadhill on May 20, 2012 15:39:17 GMT 8
Yes. Nanking, 1937.
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Post by darthdract on May 20, 2012 15:57:28 GMT 8
I thought that was in the Phils
P.s
They are sick !!!
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Post by dmether on May 20, 2012 16:23:35 GMT 8
The Japanese killed their own people, think they'd care about anyone else? This picture is taken on Luzon, the scene is a Japanese military hospital just after the Japanese military slaughtered their own men to keep them from being taken by US forces. Attachments:
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Post by EXO on May 20, 2012 17:12:48 GMT 8
Dmether makes a good point - highlighting the state of mind to which the Japanese of the 1940's had been reduced by the militarist government that established itself in control of their society during the 1930's.
Whilst I myself write about the Japanese atrocities in WWII, and have struggled with understanding their ways of war, what I find most peculiar about it all is how I myself harbor no hatred for the Japanese of today. In fact, I very much like them, and have had a number of them living as a part of our family for a number of years. Next week, for example, our daughter is flying to Japan to attend the wedding of our first Japanese student.
Through my close contact with the modern Japanese, I believe that they have learned far more about living in society than many other nationalities.
I consider that my own attitude arises because I believe that the militarists of the 1930's so perverted the Japanese public mind that its citizenry lost contact with reality and humanity, and fell into a perverse unreality. That this is not unlike the current perversion of the Muslim faith by radicals and extremists who, in some instances, have been able to take over the role of opinion creators in some countries in the Middle East, shows us that there is still much to fear from evil minds abroad in the world.
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Post by darthdract on May 20, 2012 18:00:33 GMT 8
I heard those stories before my Grand mother use to tell me. This is just the first time I saw a picture. I find that link in a local Buy and sell Website Tipidpc.com/ www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=270948 which is I am very active and they have a topic there about the Stand off in the Scarborough Shoal. Some one posted that link as a reminder how we may end up if we lose a war against China. And since there are talks about Japanese help some say they still can't trust the Japanese, I too don't harbor any hatred towards the Japanese especially an Individual considering almost all my Toys were made in Japan. Heck the Camera I use is made in Japan. But still there is this feeling that "what if they reverted back to their old ways"
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Post by dmether on May 20, 2012 19:45:46 GMT 8
I agree with EXO's comments. I lived in Japan for 8 years with the USAF. 4 years in Tokyo and 4 on Okinawa. I thought the Japanese were the nicest people on Earth, I took college classes on their history, culture, and language from the U of Maryland. It's almost like the 1930/40 Japanese were a different race altogether.
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Post by darthdract on May 20, 2012 21:28:08 GMT 8
Mamoru Shigemitsu according to a National Geographic Documentary APOCALYPS said this
" we must make of this day of mourning the first day of the birth of new japan in that way we can go to the ceremony with our heads held high"
I could not find any other supporting document regarding that quote on the net
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Post by sherwino on May 21, 2012 7:49:51 GMT 8
Scary pic above. Somebody told me of the same instance that happened in Pangasinan, Philippines. They threw todds up and the rest is history. Thank God, I was born later. As they say, civilization is a slow step to being more kind.
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Post by okla on May 21, 2012 9:39:35 GMT 8
Hey All.....It is most difficult to think that these kinds of atrocities took place. Killing POWs is one thing (and yes, I am aware that this also took place among Allied troops as well as Japanese, but not as Standard Operating Procedure as seems to have been the case with our foes), but the deliberate bayoneting of babies,etc for entertainment, practice, etc leaves me shivering, especially, when the perpetrators probably slept like babies that night after spending a day occupied in this grisly business. Maybe the B-29 crews were thinking of such things back in 1945. I have an in-law who has been married to a Japanese woman since 1960. She is a delightful and lovely person. It's hard to imagine that her people were so involved in such activity not too many years before she came to this country.
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