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Post by batteryboy on Jan 18, 2013 22:45:55 GMT 8
I am just curious, If I am not mistaken the BAR fires .30-06 Round same with the Springfield1903 and M1Garand. So does it supplement the Role of those riffles or is it implemented as a Squad Automatic Weapon since the browning 30Calibre machingun fires the same round? It was regarded as the first generation S.A.W.
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Post by darthdract on Jan 19, 2013 0:29:31 GMT 8
@battery, Thats what I thought as well since its not considered a battle Rifle like the M14 or M1 Garand I think the Bar is Much more heavier than the M14.
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Post by one50 on Jan 19, 2013 9:51:05 GMT 8
If you want to attempt to get rid of the rust, use and electrolysis tank. Easy to build and the rust falls right off, I have seen many neglected crusty guns come back from the dead because of these tanks. Just don't leave it in to long....or the gun will disappear. If you want to use oil, not WD-40, try Kroil , it's great stuff. Then once the rust is off, put a light coat of RIG (Rust Inhibiting Grease) on it.
You can find plenty of info about electrolysis tanks on the net to build your own.
Dan
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Post by Bob Hudson on Jan 19, 2013 16:10:01 GMT 8
Dan,
I live in Limay, Bataan and resources are limited to say the least. Building anything remotely like an electrolysis tank here would win me a Nobel Prize, I'm sure. My intention is merely to clean it up a bit to show more definition and yet still show what the elements have done to a weapon that was buried to deny its use to the Japanese. I have used WD-40 on the fender of the sidecar on my motorcycle and it really kicked rusts ass. Since I am an old fart by community standards, I'm going to stick to old tried and true methods which are also cheap.
Do not take this to mean that I do not appreciate your input and advice. If you lived here you would understand that finding the ingredients to bake a pie can be challenging. The only thing here that identifies us with the 21st century is the internet and cellphones. Other than that, well, use your imagination.
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Post by JohnEakin on Jan 20, 2013 0:37:49 GMT 8
WD40 is the miracle cure for cancer and the common cold. If it won't clean up the BAR, try duck tape and bailing wire.
Just curious, how many rounds do the mags hold?
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Post by Bob Hudson on Jan 20, 2013 2:30:02 GMT 8
Magazines hold 20 rounds John.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 3:18:22 GMT 8
Hi Robert,
Interesting find! Much of the coast to the North of the Points battle sites was defended by the 71st Inf (PA), then part of the 91st Div (PA). My Dad's unit, 1st Bn, 71st (PA), covered Caibobo point from the end of Jan 42 until the surrender. Can you give us a more precise location for Quinawan?
Thanks,
Jim Erickson
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Post by JohnEakin on Jan 20, 2013 8:18:36 GMT 8
Good to see you here, Jim.
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Post by Bob Hudson on Jan 20, 2013 10:36:09 GMT 8
Jim, Does your father have a plaque at the Hellship memorial? If he does, I have a recent photo of it. If you go to Google maps and pull up the west coast of Bataan, then look a little above Mariveles, you'll see a tuft of clouds just off the coast in the satellite image. The only clouds off shore. If you go due east back to shore, you'll see a beach and the signs of civilization. That is Quinawan Village. They have electricity but no cellphone signal or internet. The water comes from wells which they pump up with a handle. You'll see me washing my feet off after jumping into the surf when we landed and got my shoes full of sand. The people are very friendly and fed us twice before they let us leave. I was the first American anyone could recall seeing. It must be rife around there if wone wanted to stay and look for artifacts. It costs only 1,200 pesos for a round trip boat ride from Bagac, about $28.00 American. Was your father a BAR man? BAR's were only carried by every forth company. so Company D, then Company H and so forth. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2013 13:08:44 GMT 8
Robert, Looks like you were right in the heart of the Battle of the Points. Quinawan is just North of Quinauan point and South of Anyasan point, so landings were made on both sides of where the village is. I'm not sure what unit was defending this part of the coast when the surrender came. My Dad was a Captain and CO of 1st Bn, 71st Inf (PA) from late Jan 42 until the end. They covered Caibobo point, located south of Paysawan, which is printed on Google maps. One of the few stories he told me as a kid was about the time took a BAR, and a Filipino soldier to carry extra ammo, to the top of a hill to take a crack at one of the Japanese observation planes. He fired at the plane and it left only to return sometime later, this time with a dive bomber. The bomber strafed and bombed their location. My Dad said staying there after the plane left was the dumbest thing he did in the war but I think he was actually kind of proud his shooting was good enough to bring on the attack. If I get back to the Philippine I would love to explore the West coast of Bataan! The plaque at the Hellships memorial is for a different Erickson. IIRC for a David Erickson. My Dad's name was Albert. Thanks for the details, photo, and the report.
Jim
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