A question for the history buffs, did Manila have shore based torpedo emplacements? I was interested in those after I found out that Norway successfully sank a German Battlecruiser as it neared a harbor from hidden torpedo tubes built under ground.
Hey Moss....I have never, in my limited readings,etc, ever discovered anything relating to shore based torpedo defenses in the PI or the whole Pacific Theater, at least as far as American ordnance is/was concerned. Probably just as well, since those USN torpedoes on hand in those days were highly defective until mid War when our Subs, with more lethal "fish" went on a rampage. There are folks on this Forum with far more knowledge about this kind of stuff than yours truly. I am sure, if I am in error, you will be made privy to a more thorough briefing on the subject at hand. Cheers.
We had an extensive minefield in the Manila Bay area by both the US Army (Coast Defense) and the Navy but no shore based torpedo defenses. Torpedoes were used in subs and PT boats during the 41-42 campaign.
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We had an extensive minefield in the Manila Bay area by both the US Army (Coast Defense) and the Navy but no shore based torpedo defenses. Torpedoes were used in subs and PT boats during the 41-42 campaign.[/quo
In 1943 No11 Squadron RAAF ( Royal Australian Air Force ) Began offensive mine laying operations , which continued until the end of the war. The squadrons most notable achievement was the mining of Manila Harbor in December 1944. 3 Catalinas were used . They had to fly over 9000 miles to mine Manila Harbor.
You are probably referring to German battle cruiser Blücher, which was sunk by a combination of shore based batteries and torpedoes in very restricted waters. In wide open Manila bay, shore based torpedoes would have been all but useless and obviously would have been destroyed in short order with loss of air supremacy. As it stood, there would have been precious few targets anyhow until it was too late.
Gooday Okla . Joe regarding the mining of Manila Harbor in 1944 . I spoke with a local about the staging of the operation to Manila . Apparently there were 25 PBYs ( Calalina's ) on the mission 24 were RAAF airplanes and one was a USN PBY ( Catalina ). One airplane was lost on the mission . Out of the 25 Airplanes 3 were selected to mine Manila Harbor ,the others were to Mine other Philippine Ports .The local who served on these type of aircraft was not absolutely sure , because of it being so long ago, but he thinks they may have staged out of Rathmines which was the RAAF Catalina base in the eastern states of Australia . But it may have been Port Moresby New Guinea . Apparently the airplanes were stripped of any armour and guns for the mission .
For those who maybe interested . I came across an article in regards to the RAAF Catalina's Mining Manila Harbor 1944 . Angeles City RSL ( Returned Services League Australia ) Sub Branch . World War 2 1944 - Australian RAAF Catalina ( Flying Boat ) was shot down by Imperial Japanese Forces over Corregidor Island . All Crew were lost & never found . A memorial will be dedicated to those who lost their lives . Family of the deceased will be attending .All welcome to Attend Catalina Dedication . Thurs . 23 April 2015 Maritime Academy of Asia and Pacific .
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Marine Niece: My uncle, James P. Shockman USMC was a .50 caliber machine gunner, I believe on Caballo. Is there a roster anywhere of a small detachment of Marines who came in January of 1942 to Caballo as machine gunners. Any photos?
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norm grossman: The Fall of the Philippines 1941-42 has always interested me and now at 67 years old and retired I have the time to surf the internet and find great website like yours to get answers to my questions on this subject.
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norm grossman: How can I post or upload photos on my posts that are off my computer and don't have URL links? Thanks
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EXO: Norm Grossman - most of us arrange our own third-party image storage. Flickr, or Photobucket are two in the market.
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Marine Niece: Can anyone tell me where the cliff caves on Caballo/Fort Hughes are located?
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Henry J. Kaden: Does anyone know of the date the "Test Platoon" completed their training and were awarded their wings?
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Boy V: Hi Im Boy Villanueva loves travelling across the Philippines. I love searching American History during the WW 2. I came across the Villa Verde which inetrest me more. I have some photos of the new improvement of the road. and how can i upload it.
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tmayer: Test Platoon- First jump from airplane was on August 16, 1940. First mass jump from airplane was on August 29, 1940. September 16 ,1940 War Department authorized the 1st Parachute BN. October 2, 1940 document was amended to read 501st Parachute BN (i
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Marine Niece: Chadhill: Thank you for the sources! They've become part the story I'm writing about James's Marine service and his death. Do you think it's at all possible for me to recover my uncle's body and bring it home?
May 31, 2019 5:31:37 GMT 8
chadhill: Marine Niece: Very possible. Call USMC Service Casualty Office to register as family member at 800-847-1597. They will want a DNA sample. See FAQ at www.dpaa.mil/Contact/Contact-Us. Be sure to request his Individual Deceased Personnel File.
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Marine niece: About 5PM 5/6/42, my uncle swam from the shelter of some Caballo cliff caves to help someone swimming from Corregidor. Returning, he was resting in the water by rocks when he was bombed and killed. Are there cliff caves east of the north dock near Fuger
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cbuehler: Marine Niece,
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cbuehler: Caballo Island is almost all cliffs etc. I have to say that a swim from Corregidor to there would be quite a feat even for an outstanding swimmer, given the distance, frequently rough water and sharks that were there.
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batteryboy: There were a number of natural caves along the steep and rocky shoreline of Caballo. Not that deep though. There is a slight slope from the shore line leading to Battery Fuger but I cant recall any natural caves when i circled the island.
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