Hey EXO....This article certainly gives pause to the generally accepted version of 'ole Richard's adventures. Mister Jurika apparently, if his "ducks are in a row" has presented a pretty good case against Sergeant Sakakida. The brother-in-law angle raises red flags for me. This is very intriguing, to say the least. Thanks for posting.
Jurika's article is grossly wrong on a number of points. He is incredibly biased in so many areas concerning Sakakida. How can I give you the TRUE, ACTUAL facts of Richard Sakakida so it can be published here? Anyone interested should contact me and I will email a copy of it to them.
I am hoping that whoever is in charge of this site will contact me. It really is so wrong to print just one side of a man's exploits during WW II in the Philippines without seeing the other side. That's why it is important to print the other side as indicated in my article. I sure hope someone will contact me and have it published here.
You sure know how to trail a bait don't you? Come on a forum as a newbie and, by second post, start insulting folk, claim that you are the font of "true actual" facts, and then imply that anyone who quite possibly expresses a view contrary to yours must be "biased."
Our forum has a higher standard of civility, and you sure got yourself the wrong way to open your case, and I will have no more of it.
I have read your article - it does not establish the "other side", as you say it does. It assumes that Sakakida's story is true, but tests none of it. It cannot overcome the fact that Sakakida's story is of comparatively recent invention, told to a biographer who was not at arms length to his topic. It is a clever polemic based on a lawyerly trick of misdirection, that rather than establish facts in support of Sakakida's statements as you should have done, you instead sought to change the burden of proof, to impugn and insult the motives of "opposing counsel", to ignore or downplay fresh evidence from disinterested third parties, all the while ignoring glaring inconsistencies in Sakakida's own story.
Some of the inconsistencies of evidence now available to us all clearly establish Sakakida as far less than forthright. This evidence comes from persons and sources disinterested in shabby scholarship.
Life is short, I have better things to do, this is my courtroom, and I am not going to bother arguing the toss with you.
When you write an article that presents historical evidence of veracity, and presents something other than his own words paraphrased, then I might be interested. Try it elsewhere first though.
There's stark contrary evidence out there against Sakakida, and it's stronger than the story Sakakida gave. Get over it. Move on.
Until then, it seems that you are stuck with having eulogized a very dubious fellow.
In closing, this is not to say that Sakakida didn't serve his country well after he managed to get back into the intelligence community. However, I do think that towards the closing of his life, he told a few porkies that he shouldn't have. Discretion is the better part of valor, particularly for a spy as well as a traitor, and Sakakida should have been content not to buff up his Legend. To consider it safe to have done so, was an error of judgment on his part.
Sakakida exploits have always seemed preposterous at best in all the books that touched on his involvement in WWII. So many inconsistencies in his explanations of events as they transpired. He was to be a master of deception and seems to have learned that qualification of a good spy well indeed.
I'm waiting for the Japanese version of his tome with baited breath.............
Yes Phantom, there has been a series of books which mentioned Sakakida and the problem with the series was that they each and all relied upon earlier books as verification, when the earlier books were, in fact and truth, nothing other than another re-telling of the Legend told in an earlier work. All along the way, no one actually tested the legend. None of these authors actually ran down the truth, they just quoted earlier authors, and trusted that the official thesis was correct.
This does get to be a problem, then, when someone comes along unexpectedly, and is able to track down some of the WWII actors, and some of the facts. There's a few I can briefly illustrate.
Sakakida says he gave up his seat on the last plane out of Corregidor to Clarence Yamagata to get off Corregidor in April 1942. How selfless is that! But these days, one can get access to MacArthur's library and what do they find? MacArthur’s orders from Australia on who to remove from Corregidor clearly state to get Yamagata out; not Sakakida.
Sakakida says he got word of the "Take" Convoy to MacArthur by his guerrilla friends in May 1944. How heroic! Until someone comes along with knowledge of the sequence in which radios were delivered into the Philippines, and who says "Nobody had a radio on Luzon until June-July 1944 when Anderson and Lapham get theirs AFTER Smith sets up shop on Samar."
It's things like these that trip up those who come along and re-tell a complex story in more simple terms. If they are not going to do original research, or test the research, they are left with not much choice but to read the earlier books, paraphrase the "official thesis" and then move along, leaving a big bibliography.
Many of us who have read in the area will recall who Kim Philby was, and perhaps it is that Sakakida might have liked to see himself as a Philby operating deep in the heart of Japanese held Manila. The problem with this scenario, is that Sakakida was just a very talented liar (he's a spy, it his job) who used his wits to stay alive. Philby, Burgess, Maclean, Blunt had contrary political beliefs - Sakakida just had his skin to look after. While Japan was winning, he wore their uniform, and was a traitor. When they lost, he headed for the hills - literally. To tell too many details would have only tripped him up. So his entire output as a spy has never surfaced, for it wasn't there to surface. "Oh, I translated in such a way as to save people, then!"
Yes, the Kempaitai were such sticklers for fair trials and the Rule of Law, I'm sure. Pull the other one, Richard, it plays Jingle Bells.
"So Mr. Sakakida, you say that you were the mastermind of the Muntinglupa breakout of August 1944 and that you were actually physically present. We have in the next room someone who was involved that, and he says he was there in August and you weren't, and that the thing was spontaneous."
That's the sort of nightmare a spy must really dread, the chance of being tripped up in the details. Better wait until you are about to die of old age to tell the story. No one will be around to "be" in the next room.
Or so he thought.
I am a little sorry for authors who retell such stories in their books. They parrot the official thesis, assuming it to be correct, safe for them to use, for after all it is the official truth, right? In the end, it is sold as history but instead comes out reading like a dime action comic - or as you have said, "preposterous at best." Then some basterd like Jurika comes along, who is as comfortable in Tagalog as he is in English, and who is connected within the circles of the Filipino guerillas. "Who'd have thunk it?" as they say in the dime novels.
What they don't realize is that the contrary scenario would make, by far, a more interesting tale. Uncovering the official thesis is a true detective story. Imagine the intellectual and dramatic complexity of Sakakida as a fictional hero! An opportunist, who realizes that he cannot survive each day except by deception. He thinks he's deceiving the Japanese, but actually he's deceived himself! He has become a traitor. with the US coming back, he realizes that he's going to have to continue in a life of deception, to rid himself of the taint of the Japanese uniform he's been wearing! How to get back from this precipice? And then what? To spend your life as an intelligence agent! To influence things, make sure that certain documents remain classified - or go missing. And then to think you have done it so well, to tell the cover story to an uncritical biographer! What a scenario! Enough for a fresh Flashman series!
I must apologise to you, Ghost Who Walks, for going off on these tangents of imagination.
I am sure the rest of Mr. M's book is perfectly fine. Pity that he found himself stuck with the role of apologist for the official thesis on Sakakida. Does he realize that, sticking to this, he may be distancing himself from the very people we all admire, the able and competent historians and veterans, both American and Filipino.
I really do want this to be my last word in the matter.
I can only assume that ECO and Phantom are Louis and Peter since they are two of the very few to whom I have sent my article (I've been in an open discussion with Peter for some time). As to "okla" I imagine she/he is also one of the cousins and/or grandkids of a very brave hero: Blache Jurika. As I said in my article (it's 10 pages, single spaced): if you'd read it with an open mind you wouldn't continue to libel Sakakida the way you have. Why aren't you willing to have my article available for everyone to read and compare it with Louis'? Is someone afraid of the truth or have the other side told? It's just too bad you didn't get to see the horrendous burns and other scars on Sakakida's body that was inflicted by the Japs as part of his torture--and was seen by his VA doctor just a short time before Sakakida's death. For anyone else: read my article in its entirely if you want the truth (although I don't know how to get it to you). You'll see where these guys are totally wrong. I wish there was someway to get it to any other readers, but I imagine whoever is in charge of this site doesn't want it to be read. The citations and footnotes I have set forth are extensive and the article involved countless hours in reading, and comparing it with other evidence etc. You'd then get to see the other side--which is kind of important in our American system of justice--rather than presenting only one side--as is the case in Louis' article--and I repeat: it's wrong in so many areas. My article is not just my words, they are words by a significant number of military historians as well as authors who were there during WW II. Frankly, in view of the one-sided comments above, I can see no reason to continue with the cite since it seems it's composed of two cousins who just pat themselves on the back and are not willing to see the truth. Goodbye.
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