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Post by fots2 on Sept 16, 2012 22:11:42 GMT 8
Perhaps there was Bob, I do not know. There is no end to Corregidor's learning curve. That is what keeps it interesting.
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Post by okla on Sept 17, 2012 10:18:41 GMT 8
Hey Fots....Help me out if you would. In viewing the map of bottomside depicting the "Private Cine", there is a trolley line/track between said Cine and Bldg 65. In the "aerial" photo of the same area I am not finding the trolley line located between the two structures. I see the overpass/underpass and possible tracks immediately to the right of said structure, but no such rails to the left running between Bldg 65 and the Cine. Am I losing my mind or not? The former is a distinct possibility these days. This question isn't a monumental, Earth shaking problem, but you know how these little things bug the Hell outta me. Cheers.
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Post by fots2 on Sept 17, 2012 20:08:49 GMT 8
Hi okla, The trolley line is very difficult to see in that poor quality photo but I think I can make it out. You can see the tracks much better if you look to the right of the overpass. Zg691. Movie and rail tracks in San Jose.
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Post by okla on Sept 17, 2012 21:42:49 GMT 8
Hey Fots...Right your are. I could make out the tracks to the right of the overpass/underpass, but I had convinced myself that the ones to the left was a sidewalk. I betcha they are embedded in concrete with no wooden ties showing, giving them a possible sidewalk appearance. It is obvious that a rail/trolley line should be there, but I just couldn't "make it happen". Thanks for the enlarged shot. My mind is at ease until another "problem", hopefully arises. Lordy, I love this stuff. Cheers.
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Post by okla on Sept 17, 2012 23:46:11 GMT 8
Hey Bob....You mentioned the number of troops that were stationed on Corregidor just prior to the outbreak of War....I came up with this number, courtesy of the book, "Fall of the Philippines", by Louis Morton.....5360, which included 1458 Scouts as of 31 July 1941 (corresponding to the approximate effective date of Private Bullocks Cine Pass). Of course, the total number of troops doubled after Pearl Harbor. Something like 10 or 12 thousand surrendered in May 1942, if memory serves. I was never on a USAF Base that had more than one Movie facility, but I suppose that means nothing. Maybe Corregidor's military population could support three such facilities, especially if Bottomside was privately owned/operated and the Barrio citizens patronized it primarily. Who really would know at this late date??? One thing is for sure....the Topside Cine was pretty "spiffy" for her day, it would seem. Cheers.
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Post by okla on Sept 18, 2012 6:38:43 GMT 8
Hey Bob....One more thing about the troop strength on "The Rock". Morton's book states that these numbers were for Fort Mills. Now whether that includes the other Harbor Forts, I don't know. I am fuzzy on how Forts Hughes, Frank and Drum were manned. I have read/heard that these lesser installations were occupied by "skeleton" crews, rotated from Fort Mills. Now whether that would mean that the quoted numbers for Corregidor included these skeleton crews (seems that would be probable) I haven't a clue. I have also heard different lengths for these "TDY" tours on the other islands. I read somewhere that the "hitch" on Fort Hughes was six months. Seems kinda long to me, but it was a larger hunk of land and probably had more emenities, i.e., service club, EM Beer Hall, PX, etc so it would warrant a longer stint then, say, Fort Drum with it's cramped spaces. Just another SWAG. Still, six months on Hughes seems a bit stiff a "sentence". Of course, troops who were stuck on the small isles, did go to Corregidor, regularly, in order to enjoy the fruits of that much larger station, use their facilities, bowl, drink, swim, in protected beaches,attend said Cine movie house, and all that kinda thing that was lacking in skeleton crew duty. Why, there was even space on Ft Mills to have a "running fit" if such a thing was in order to relieve the stress on serving, even in TDY status, on those much smaller posts. This would be, especially, true for the "sailors" of the USS Fort Drum. More SWAGs to ponder. We all can thank Chad for the term, "SWAG". I had heard the descriptive phrase, but he was the first, to my knowledge, to utilize it on this forum. Must have been in common usage at Subic. Cheers.
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Post by chadhill on Oct 1, 2012 11:21:47 GMT 8
Yes ol' bud, SWAG was in common use at Subic. Among the other publicly printable expressions used were FIGMO, BRAINFART, GHOST-TURD, RUG DANCE, HELMET FIRE, and KNEEPADS. That's all I can think of at the moment, and I better quit while I'm ahead ;D
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Post by Bob Hudson on Oct 1, 2012 14:48:16 GMT 8
I really have no idea if the other Forts were manned from Corregidor prior to the war. I have to assume that they were after the war began. If a complete roster of those surrendered on Corregidor ever surfaces, I don't don't if the men manning other Island forts will be included. I don't feel like reading Mortons book again to find out if it is even discussed. One of the surviving Corregidor POW's may have the answer.
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Post by okla on Oct 2, 2012 0:39:13 GMT 8
Hey Chad....FIGMO, I am familiar with. Also, when in Korea and reaching "shortimer" status and preparing to begin processing to rotate home, FYJIGMO was in vogue. Translation.... "F.....you Jack, I got my orders". We were relieved of duty just as soon as our name appeared on said orders. Since the chief Personnel Clerk at Wing HQ was a fellow Oklahoman, guess who was relieved of duty 10 days early and sent ahead to Japan with the shipment orders? That's right, yours truly. I had learned to "work the system" by then. Cheers.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Feb 28, 2024 16:37:32 GMT 8
This is to notify you that 4 watermarked images have been replaced in this thread! Zg689. Movie in San Jose. Photo of the Corregidor Bottomside Cine taken from Malinta Hill. This image was provided by John Moffitt who had posted it in this Corregidor Forum page “Movie Pass at Cine Corregidor”.
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