Post by Karl Welteke on Jan 22, 2024 16:42:45 GMT 8
The Filipino WWII POW Monument at Camp O’Donnell
Here are pictures from WWII and now a day at the Capas Shrine. The Monuments almost look 100% alike. I always wanted to know, are they the same, are they located at the same spot? Perhaps someone can help. At the Corregidor Forum we have a nice page with a lot of pictures about Camp O’Donnell, 4 pages now: corregidor.proboards.com/thread/1569/camp-donnell-cross-capas-shrine
Some of these images are available in high resolution in this Flickr album: www.flickr.com/.../44567.../albums/72177720314233447
#01 of 4. These first 4 pictures came from a Life Magazine page that said: Lingayen, Camp O'Donnell, Karl Maydan, unedited.
The Japanese separated the POWs, the Filipinos where south of the O’Donnell Road and the Americans where north of the road. We all heard or know about the cross the Americans built which is now in the Andersonville National Historic Site in the National Prisoner of War museum.
I assume the Filipinos also built this one but I never seen it in writing. What happened to it? What did the plaque say?
#02 of 4. These first 4 pictures came from a Life Magazine page that said: Lingayen, Camp O'Donnell, Karl Maydan, unedited.
The Japanese separated the POWs, the Filipinos where south of the O’Donnell Road and the Americans where north of the road. We all heard or know about the cross the Americans built which is now in the Andersonville National Historic Site in the National Prisoner of War museum.
I assume the Filipinos also built this one but I never seen it in writing. What happened to it? What did the plaque say?
#03 of 4. These first 4 pictures came from a Life Magazine page that said: Lingayen, Camp O'Donnell, Karl Maydan, unedited.
The Japanese separated the POWs, the Filipinos where south of the O’Donnell Road and the Americans where north of the road. We all heard or know about the cross the Americans built which is now in the Andersonville National Historic Site in the National Prisoner of War museum.
#04 of 4. These first 4 pictures came from a Life Magazine page that said: Lingayen, Camp O'Donnell, Karl Maydan, unedited.
The Japanese separated the POWs, the Filipinos where south of the O’Donnell Road and the Americans where north of the road. We all heard or know about the cross the Americans built which is now in the Andersonville National Historic Site in the National Prisoner of War museum.
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#05 image. 1 of 4 images of the Filipino WWII Monument& Camp O’Donnell from the www found and or bought by John Duresky (uploaded in high resolution). John Duresky is the researcher of the writing team of the new book “Relentless Hope: A True Story of War and Survival, by David L. Britt” and he sent it to me. The Filipino Monument was found in 1945 and its pictures were used in newspapers at the time. We exchanged these communications:
2023 Oct. 19: Karl, this photo is for sale on Ebay. I've Googled it every way I can think of and can't find it anywhere else. Does this look familiar to you? Is this something the Japanese maybe erected to try to get on the good side of the Filipinos, and then afterwards the Filipinos tore it down and erected something else?
If it's worth it for history I could buy it, but if it's common then I'll pass. Found it in a couple newspapers, all very grainy and hard to see. Thanks, John
2023 Oct. 20. John, yes, I’m familiar with this monument.
I will send you a number of pictures of a monument that looks exactly like that (I sent # 9 & #12).
I suspect that the monument used now is the very same one but I never read that, that exactly says this.
I also saw and have somewhere a picture of the monument (WWII image) as in your picture and when I saw the present one that is when I started thinking the above. But I never read that says so.
The pictures I send are from the Capas Shrine, the former Camp O’Donnell, the Filipino side. The US Soldiers were kept across the street, which later became a Navy Communication Relay Station, that is where the US Cross was and sadly that area became a resettlement development. Look up Capas Shrine also look in our forum for Camp O’Donnell and the Capas Shrine, it is a big place!
Yes, I would say it is worth it! First time I said that. Karl
2023-Oct. 24. Good Morning Karl, attached is the Wirephoto and as it appeared in the newspapers. Unfortunately, after I bought it and received it then I found it was in fact a Wirephoto which had been sent out and not the original photo. As a result, the quality was not as good as I had hoped, and so the plaque is not legible. Perhaps a Filipino can read it and pick up a few words. I wonder what happened to the original plaque and what it said? It has been altered a great deal from the time the photo was taken until the image you have in Y276. John
#06 image. 1 of 4 images of the Filipino WWII Monument& Camp O’Donnell from the www found and or bought by John Duresky (uploaded in high resolution). John Duresky is the researcher of the writing team of the new book “Relentless Hope: A True Story of War and Survival, by David L. Britt” and he sent it to me. The Filipino Monument was found in 1945 and its pictures were used in newspapers at the time. We exchanged these communications:
2023 Oct. 19: Karl, this photo is for sale on Ebay. I've Googled it every way I can think of and can't find it anywhere else. Does this look familiar to you? Is this something the Japanese maybe erected to try to get on the good side of the Filipinos, and then afterwards the Filipinos tore it down and erected something else?
If it's worth it for history I could buy it, but if it's common then I'll pass. Found it in a couple newspapers, all very grainy and hard to see. Thanks, John
2023 Oct. 20. John, yes, I’m familiar with this monument.
I will send you a number of pictures of a monument that looks exactly like that (I sent # 9 & #12).
I suspect that the monument used now is the very same one but I never read that, that exactly says this.
I also saw and have somewhere a picture of the monument (WWII image) as in your picture and when I saw the present one that is when I started thinking the above. But I never read that says so.
The pictures I send are from the Capas Shrine, the former Camp O’Donnell, the Filipino side. The US Soldiers were kept across the street, which later became a Navy Communication Relay Station, that is where the US Cross was and sadly that area became a resettlement development. Look up Capas Shrine also look in our forum for Camp O’Donnell and the Capas Shrine, it is a big place!
Yes, I would say it is worth it! First time I said that. Karl
2023-Oct. 24. Good Morning Karl, attached is the Wirephoto and as it appeared in the newspapers. Unfortunately, after I bought it and received it then I found it was in fact a Wirephoto which had been sent out and not the original photo. As a result, the quality was not as good as I had hoped, and so the plaque is not legible. Perhaps a Filipino can read it and pick up a few words. I wonder what happened to the original plaque and what it said? It has been altered a great deal from the time the photo was taken until the image you have in Y276. John
#07 image. 1 of 4 images of the Filipino WWII Monument& Camp O’Donnell from the www found and or bought by John Duresky (uploaded in high resolution). John Duresky is the researcher of the writing team of the new book “Relentless Hope: A True Story of War and Survival, by David L. Britt” and he sent it to me. The Filipino Monument was found in 1945 and its pictures were used in newspapers at the time. We exchanged these communications:
2023 Oct. 19: Karl, this photo is for sale on Ebay. I've Googled it every way I can think of and can't find it anywhere else. Does this look familiar to you? Is this something the Japanese maybe erected to try to get on the good side of the Filipinos, and then afterwards the Filipinos tore it down and erected something else?
If it's worth it for history I could buy it, but if it's common then I'll pass. Found it in a couple newspapers, all very grainy and hard to see. Thanks, John
2023 Oct. 20. John, yes, I’m familiar with this monument.
I will send you a number of pictures of a monument that looks exactly like that (I sent # 9 & #12).
I suspect that the monument used now is the very same one but I never read that, that exactly says this.
I also saw and have somewhere a picture of the monument (WWII image) as in your picture and when I saw the present one that is when I started thinking the above. But I never read that says so.
The pictures I send are from the Capas Shrine, the former Camp O’Donnell, the Filipino side. The US Soldiers were kept across the street, which later became a Navy Communication relay station, that is where the US Cross was and sadly that area became a resettlement development. Look up Capas Shrine also look in our forum for Camp O’Donnell and the Capas Shrine, it is a big place!
Yes, I would say it is worth it! First time I said that. Karl
2023-Oct. 24. Good Morning Karl, attached is the Wirephoto and as it appeared in the newspapers. Unfortunately, after I bought it and received it then I found it was in fact a Wirephoto which had been sent out and not the original photo. As a result, the quality was not as good as I had hoped, and so the plaque is not legible. Perhaps a Filipino can read it and pick up a few words. I wonder what happened to the original plaque and what it said? It has been altered a great deal from the time the photo was taken until the image you have in Y276. John
#08 image. 1 of 4 images of the Filipino WWII Monument& Camp O’Donnell from the www found and or bought by John Duresky (uploaded in high resolution). John Duresky is the researcher of the writing team of the new book “Relentless Hope: A True Story of War and Survival, by David L. Britt” and he sent it to me. The Filipino Monument was found in 1945 and its pictures were used in newspapers at the time. We exchanged these communications:
2023 Oct. 19: Karl, this photo is for sale on Ebay. I've Googled it every way I can think of and can't find it anywhere else. Does this look familiar to you? Is this something the Japanese maybe erected to try to get on the good side of the Filipinos, and then afterwards the Filipinos tore it down and erected something else?
If it's worth it for history I could buy it, but if it's common then I'll pass. Found it in a couple newspapers, all very grainy and hard to see. Thanks, John
2023 Oct. 20. John, yes, I’m familiar with this monument.
I will send you a number of pictures of a monument that looks exactly like that(I sent # 9 & #12).
I suspect that the monument used now is the very same one but I never read that, that exactly says this.
I also saw and have somewhere a picture of the monument (WWII image) as in your picture and when I saw the present one that is when I started thinking the above. But I never read that says so.
The pictures I send are from the Capas Shrine, the former Camp O’Donnell, the Filipino side. The US Soldiers were kept across the street, which later became a Navy Communication relay station, that is where the US Cross was and sadly that area became a resettlement development. Look up Capas Shrine also look in our forum for Camp O’Donnell and the Capas Shrine, it is a big place!
Yes, I would say it is worth it! First time I said that. Karl
2023-Oct. 24. Good Morning Karl, attached is the Wirephoto and as it appeared in the newspapers. Unfortunately, after I bought it and received it then I found it was in fact a Wirephoto which had been sent out and not the original photo. As a result, the quality was not as good as I had hoped, and so the plaque is not legible. Perhaps a Filipino can read it and pick up a few words. I wonder what happened to the original plaque and what it said? It has been altered a great deal from the time the photo was taken until the image you have in Y276. John
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09. 080714h DBC POW Memorial, 01. The Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor. Is it the same one as in WWII and is it at the same spot? To the right we see the American WWII POW Monument erected by the Battling Bastards of Bataan. In between the two Monuments are smaller ones commemorating the Czech Expats and others who took up arms against the invading Japanese.
10. 080718 BBB-POW Memorial, 02. Thi is the Battling Bastards of Bataan WWII POW Monument at the Capas National Shrine. If you like to know more check this Corregidor Forum page: corregidor.proboards.com/thread/1569/camp-donnell-cross-capas-shrine
11. 150324n Capas National Shrine 2. In this 2015 image we see all three WWII POW Monuments together in one picture.
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12. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
13. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
14. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
15. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
16. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
17. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
18. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
19. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
20. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
Here are pictures from WWII and now a day at the Capas Shrine. The Monuments almost look 100% alike. I always wanted to know, are they the same, are they located at the same spot? Perhaps someone can help. At the Corregidor Forum we have a nice page with a lot of pictures about Camp O’Donnell, 4 pages now: corregidor.proboards.com/thread/1569/camp-donnell-cross-capas-shrine
Some of these images are available in high resolution in this Flickr album: www.flickr.com/.../44567.../albums/72177720314233447
#01 of 4. These first 4 pictures came from a Life Magazine page that said: Lingayen, Camp O'Donnell, Karl Maydan, unedited.
The Japanese separated the POWs, the Filipinos where south of the O’Donnell Road and the Americans where north of the road. We all heard or know about the cross the Americans built which is now in the Andersonville National Historic Site in the National Prisoner of War museum.
I assume the Filipinos also built this one but I never seen it in writing. What happened to it? What did the plaque say?
#02 of 4. These first 4 pictures came from a Life Magazine page that said: Lingayen, Camp O'Donnell, Karl Maydan, unedited.
The Japanese separated the POWs, the Filipinos where south of the O’Donnell Road and the Americans where north of the road. We all heard or know about the cross the Americans built which is now in the Andersonville National Historic Site in the National Prisoner of War museum.
I assume the Filipinos also built this one but I never seen it in writing. What happened to it? What did the plaque say?
#03 of 4. These first 4 pictures came from a Life Magazine page that said: Lingayen, Camp O'Donnell, Karl Maydan, unedited.
The Japanese separated the POWs, the Filipinos where south of the O’Donnell Road and the Americans where north of the road. We all heard or know about the cross the Americans built which is now in the Andersonville National Historic Site in the National Prisoner of War museum.
#04 of 4. These first 4 pictures came from a Life Magazine page that said: Lingayen, Camp O'Donnell, Karl Maydan, unedited.
The Japanese separated the POWs, the Filipinos where south of the O’Donnell Road and the Americans where north of the road. We all heard or know about the cross the Americans built which is now in the Andersonville National Historic Site in the National Prisoner of War museum.
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#05 image. 1 of 4 images of the Filipino WWII Monument& Camp O’Donnell from the www found and or bought by John Duresky (uploaded in high resolution). John Duresky is the researcher of the writing team of the new book “Relentless Hope: A True Story of War and Survival, by David L. Britt” and he sent it to me. The Filipino Monument was found in 1945 and its pictures were used in newspapers at the time. We exchanged these communications:
2023 Oct. 19: Karl, this photo is for sale on Ebay. I've Googled it every way I can think of and can't find it anywhere else. Does this look familiar to you? Is this something the Japanese maybe erected to try to get on the good side of the Filipinos, and then afterwards the Filipinos tore it down and erected something else?
If it's worth it for history I could buy it, but if it's common then I'll pass. Found it in a couple newspapers, all very grainy and hard to see. Thanks, John
2023 Oct. 20. John, yes, I’m familiar with this monument.
I will send you a number of pictures of a monument that looks exactly like that (I sent # 9 & #12).
I suspect that the monument used now is the very same one but I never read that, that exactly says this.
I also saw and have somewhere a picture of the monument (WWII image) as in your picture and when I saw the present one that is when I started thinking the above. But I never read that says so.
The pictures I send are from the Capas Shrine, the former Camp O’Donnell, the Filipino side. The US Soldiers were kept across the street, which later became a Navy Communication Relay Station, that is where the US Cross was and sadly that area became a resettlement development. Look up Capas Shrine also look in our forum for Camp O’Donnell and the Capas Shrine, it is a big place!
Yes, I would say it is worth it! First time I said that. Karl
2023-Oct. 24. Good Morning Karl, attached is the Wirephoto and as it appeared in the newspapers. Unfortunately, after I bought it and received it then I found it was in fact a Wirephoto which had been sent out and not the original photo. As a result, the quality was not as good as I had hoped, and so the plaque is not legible. Perhaps a Filipino can read it and pick up a few words. I wonder what happened to the original plaque and what it said? It has been altered a great deal from the time the photo was taken until the image you have in Y276. John
#06 image. 1 of 4 images of the Filipino WWII Monument& Camp O’Donnell from the www found and or bought by John Duresky (uploaded in high resolution). John Duresky is the researcher of the writing team of the new book “Relentless Hope: A True Story of War and Survival, by David L. Britt” and he sent it to me. The Filipino Monument was found in 1945 and its pictures were used in newspapers at the time. We exchanged these communications:
2023 Oct. 19: Karl, this photo is for sale on Ebay. I've Googled it every way I can think of and can't find it anywhere else. Does this look familiar to you? Is this something the Japanese maybe erected to try to get on the good side of the Filipinos, and then afterwards the Filipinos tore it down and erected something else?
If it's worth it for history I could buy it, but if it's common then I'll pass. Found it in a couple newspapers, all very grainy and hard to see. Thanks, John
2023 Oct. 20. John, yes, I’m familiar with this monument.
I will send you a number of pictures of a monument that looks exactly like that (I sent # 9 & #12).
I suspect that the monument used now is the very same one but I never read that, that exactly says this.
I also saw and have somewhere a picture of the monument (WWII image) as in your picture and when I saw the present one that is when I started thinking the above. But I never read that says so.
The pictures I send are from the Capas Shrine, the former Camp O’Donnell, the Filipino side. The US Soldiers were kept across the street, which later became a Navy Communication Relay Station, that is where the US Cross was and sadly that area became a resettlement development. Look up Capas Shrine also look in our forum for Camp O’Donnell and the Capas Shrine, it is a big place!
Yes, I would say it is worth it! First time I said that. Karl
2023-Oct. 24. Good Morning Karl, attached is the Wirephoto and as it appeared in the newspapers. Unfortunately, after I bought it and received it then I found it was in fact a Wirephoto which had been sent out and not the original photo. As a result, the quality was not as good as I had hoped, and so the plaque is not legible. Perhaps a Filipino can read it and pick up a few words. I wonder what happened to the original plaque and what it said? It has been altered a great deal from the time the photo was taken until the image you have in Y276. John
#07 image. 1 of 4 images of the Filipino WWII Monument& Camp O’Donnell from the www found and or bought by John Duresky (uploaded in high resolution). John Duresky is the researcher of the writing team of the new book “Relentless Hope: A True Story of War and Survival, by David L. Britt” and he sent it to me. The Filipino Monument was found in 1945 and its pictures were used in newspapers at the time. We exchanged these communications:
2023 Oct. 19: Karl, this photo is for sale on Ebay. I've Googled it every way I can think of and can't find it anywhere else. Does this look familiar to you? Is this something the Japanese maybe erected to try to get on the good side of the Filipinos, and then afterwards the Filipinos tore it down and erected something else?
If it's worth it for history I could buy it, but if it's common then I'll pass. Found it in a couple newspapers, all very grainy and hard to see. Thanks, John
2023 Oct. 20. John, yes, I’m familiar with this monument.
I will send you a number of pictures of a monument that looks exactly like that (I sent # 9 & #12).
I suspect that the monument used now is the very same one but I never read that, that exactly says this.
I also saw and have somewhere a picture of the monument (WWII image) as in your picture and when I saw the present one that is when I started thinking the above. But I never read that says so.
The pictures I send are from the Capas Shrine, the former Camp O’Donnell, the Filipino side. The US Soldiers were kept across the street, which later became a Navy Communication relay station, that is where the US Cross was and sadly that area became a resettlement development. Look up Capas Shrine also look in our forum for Camp O’Donnell and the Capas Shrine, it is a big place!
Yes, I would say it is worth it! First time I said that. Karl
2023-Oct. 24. Good Morning Karl, attached is the Wirephoto and as it appeared in the newspapers. Unfortunately, after I bought it and received it then I found it was in fact a Wirephoto which had been sent out and not the original photo. As a result, the quality was not as good as I had hoped, and so the plaque is not legible. Perhaps a Filipino can read it and pick up a few words. I wonder what happened to the original plaque and what it said? It has been altered a great deal from the time the photo was taken until the image you have in Y276. John
#08 image. 1 of 4 images of the Filipino WWII Monument& Camp O’Donnell from the www found and or bought by John Duresky (uploaded in high resolution). John Duresky is the researcher of the writing team of the new book “Relentless Hope: A True Story of War and Survival, by David L. Britt” and he sent it to me. The Filipino Monument was found in 1945 and its pictures were used in newspapers at the time. We exchanged these communications:
2023 Oct. 19: Karl, this photo is for sale on Ebay. I've Googled it every way I can think of and can't find it anywhere else. Does this look familiar to you? Is this something the Japanese maybe erected to try to get on the good side of the Filipinos, and then afterwards the Filipinos tore it down and erected something else?
If it's worth it for history I could buy it, but if it's common then I'll pass. Found it in a couple newspapers, all very grainy and hard to see. Thanks, John
2023 Oct. 20. John, yes, I’m familiar with this monument.
I will send you a number of pictures of a monument that looks exactly like that(I sent # 9 & #12).
I suspect that the monument used now is the very same one but I never read that, that exactly says this.
I also saw and have somewhere a picture of the monument (WWII image) as in your picture and when I saw the present one that is when I started thinking the above. But I never read that says so.
The pictures I send are from the Capas Shrine, the former Camp O’Donnell, the Filipino side. The US Soldiers were kept across the street, which later became a Navy Communication relay station, that is where the US Cross was and sadly that area became a resettlement development. Look up Capas Shrine also look in our forum for Camp O’Donnell and the Capas Shrine, it is a big place!
Yes, I would say it is worth it! First time I said that. Karl
2023-Oct. 24. Good Morning Karl, attached is the Wirephoto and as it appeared in the newspapers. Unfortunately, after I bought it and received it then I found it was in fact a Wirephoto which had been sent out and not the original photo. As a result, the quality was not as good as I had hoped, and so the plaque is not legible. Perhaps a Filipino can read it and pick up a few words. I wonder what happened to the original plaque and what it said? It has been altered a great deal from the time the photo was taken until the image you have in Y276. John
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09. 080714h DBC POW Memorial, 01. The Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor. Is it the same one as in WWII and is it at the same spot? To the right we see the American WWII POW Monument erected by the Battling Bastards of Bataan. In between the two Monuments are smaller ones commemorating the Czech Expats and others who took up arms against the invading Japanese.
10. 080718 BBB-POW Memorial, 02. Thi is the Battling Bastards of Bataan WWII POW Monument at the Capas National Shrine. If you like to know more check this Corregidor Forum page: corregidor.proboards.com/thread/1569/camp-donnell-cross-capas-shrine
11. 150324n Capas National Shrine 2. In this 2015 image we see all three WWII POW Monuments together in one picture.
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12. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
13. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
14. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
15. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
16. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
17. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
18. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
19. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!
20. This is one of several 2008 images of the Filipino WWII POW Monument erected by the Filipino Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor in the Capas National Shine. It is uploaded in high resolution!