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Post by Bob Hudson on Sept 22, 2012 5:05:09 GMT 8
Rather than going through that entire site, I'm going to assume that HE munitions blow the crap out of things and shrapnel rounds just kill.
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Post by pdh54 on Sept 25, 2012 1:53:08 GMT 8
Over the weekend........ Could this be one of the same shells as in the tunnel? I emailed this museum for info on the shell. Haven't heard back yet. The Estrella Warbirds Museum in Paso Robles CA www.ewarbirds.org/arms.htmlAlso, are any of these shells for the PomPom gun? Patty
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Post by okla on Sept 25, 2012 4:28:55 GMT 8
Hey Patty....You posted a photo of a Pom-Pom round standing alongside a 12 inch ruler on another thread dealing with the Malinta Hill Pom Pom. I see nothing in the glass case, displaying anti aircraft ammo, in this photo, that resembles that round. In the glass case displaying Naval rounds, that "clip" of shells hanging above the larger ones, standing below, looks like a "candidate" to my glazed eyes. Whatcha think???.
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Post by pdh54 on Sept 25, 2012 5:47:25 GMT 8
Okla,
I don't know anything about this stuff, and can't make statements about them except based solely on observation. I couldn't see resemblances either so that is why I asked. You're right tho, except for the color, the shells hanging from the wall in the Naval Artillery case look a lot like the shell I posted on page 14 of the Malinta Hill thread.
What do you think about the one with the red arrow pointing at it for being like the ones in the tunnel? Do you think it is long enough?
Patty
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Post by okla on Sept 25, 2012 6:33:43 GMT 8
Hey Patty....I think it is long enough, but I get back to the "rounded" business. Have we finally settled on whether this aspect is an optical illusion or not??? Doncha love doing this stuff??? Like you say, I also know next to nuthin' about ordnance. The closest I have ever been to anything considered artillery was the "quad .50" emplacement sitting about 30 yards from our shack in Korea. It was akin to that which is shown in the foreground of your photo, mounted in the rear of a half track which had been driven on top of a dirt berm constructed by SCARWAF Engineers. This was at K-13 (Suwon, South Korea). Those gunners almost shot the roof off our hut one night in the Spring of 1953, trying to knock down "Bed Check Charley". Our night time Interceptors (F-94s) were ineffective against "Charlie, so we borrowed a Corsair Pilot and his A/C from the Navy and he got 5 of those nuisances in about a 10 day period. Only Navy Ace of the Korean War. Even if they were "crop duster" Bi-Planes, they were enemy A/C, thus an Ace was born. In all fairness, the Navy, using Panther Jets had little opportunity to bag a MIG-15, then in use by the Communists. That was the job for F-86s that my unit flew and Aces were a plenty. It is always a pleasure talking with you. It is obvious you are really into this "big time". I know I would really miss it. I repeat, Fots says it is incurable, probably fatal in nature. One more thing, time permitting. Going back to the Pom Pom Round standing next to the 12 inch ruler, which you posted earlier. I am wondering if said round being, blue in color, designated it being a regular round and if it had been red, then it was an incendiary??? Now that was a real SWAG on my part. Cheers.
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Post by pdh54 on Sept 25, 2012 7:36:37 GMT 8
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Post by pdh54 on Sept 25, 2012 7:46:11 GMT 8
Okla, These sites say that BLUE is for practice rounds and RED is incendiary.
That might be why the blue one was for sale on ebay. Are practice rounds 'live'? I realize they would have to have the propellant, but would they have whatever makes it deadly?
Patty
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Post by okla on Sept 25, 2012 8:43:55 GMT 8
Hey Patty....I am really getting into SWAG territory here, but if a "blank" or practice round for a rifle or other small arm has no projectile, wouldn't a "practice" artillery round be of the same nomenclature? OR, would the artillery round have a non explosive projectile????If this is ???the nature of a practice artillery round, I would hate be in any area where this non explosive projectile struck. Said projectile might not be explosive, but it sure as heck would put a knott on one's head. Cheers. Battery Boy, where art thou? ??
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Post by sherwino on Sept 25, 2012 9:45:56 GMT 8
Hi, Okla. An ex-army told me that a practice artillery round does have a non-explosive projectile or it could be a blank if it's for getting the feel of it.
The blank ones are commonly used for gun salute or for "demonstration" purposes.
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Post by okla on Sept 25, 2012 10:40:15 GMT 8
Hey Sherwino.....Thanks for the update. I did know that ceremonial (retreat, 21 gun salutes,etc) were blanks, but wasn't sure about the practice rounds. On second thought, there would have to be a non explosive projectile for practice. Coast Artillery and Navy firing at target rafts at sea. Sometimes I think I am losing my "grip". Thanks again for helping me regain a portion of my sanity. Cheers.
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