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Post by chadhill on Nov 29, 2010 6:16:22 GMT 8
Another PEF photo showing the high, dense Bataan jungle in the background.
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Post by okla on Nov 29, 2010 7:54:22 GMT 8
Hey Chad....In the photo of the artillery barrage,etc, I am assuming that is Mount Samat (Summit) on the left and Mount Bataan on the right. Correct me if I am in error. If not for these mountains this pic would look very much like a photograph taken on the Western Front in 1916-18. Somewhere, in the distant past, I read an account of a member of the 31st Infantry Regiment (US), who thought that this shelling on Easter Sunday 1942 was every bit as bad as some that he had endured as a kid way back in his AEF days under Genl Pershing in France.
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Post by chadhill on Dec 1, 2010 7:34:36 GMT 8
Bingo, eagle eye! Mount Samat on the left, Mount Bataan on the right.
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Post by chadhill on Jan 16, 2012 12:26:03 GMT 8
Another photo from the Bataan section of "Philippine Expeditionary Force", 1943. Can anyone ID this? Thanks.
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Post by okla on Jan 17, 2012 0:06:43 GMT 8
Hey Chad....Could this sign be a warning to his Imperial Majesty's troops that traffic beyond this location was controlled by Fil/American Forces? I have never heard nor read about land mines being used on Bataan, at least extensively, but could this sign with the death's head be the equivalent to "Achtung, Minen"(sp???) as used by the Germans half a world away??? The imagination flares once again, methinks. Postscript....Looking over the photos, once again, of the 1943 Japanese publication dealing with the Philippine conquest, that pic of the Japanese Commander expounding to his troops, gives me the "creeps". If that ain't the wooliest, meanest looking bunch of cuthroats, I will defer to somebody else to describe them. Cheers Another Postscript....On further reflection, this warning might be something as simple as a caution to the gentlemen from up North to refrain from drinking from a possibly contaminated stream or water course, if one is located in the bushes beyond the camera lens and not shown in the photo. Just another wild thought on my part.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Jan 18, 2012 22:09:02 GMT 8
Fots2 In your reply #27 you must be mistaken about pictures # 3 and # 4. I’m sure they are in the NW direction from Mt. Samat and not left of Mt. Limay as you say. That is the South China Sea with bays and ridgeline which it has like that; Manila Bay doesn‘t have anything like that. I recognize it as the high ridge line west of Peak Mt. Bataan which is part of the Mt. Natib volcano complex. I can see the high voltage line towers that come across there from the nuclear power plant.
Chadhill In regards Gen. Nara in reply #29, he of course is the person who ordered the massacre of the several hundred Philippine Officer and NCOs after the surrender!!! Those Japanese pictures are really unique, thanks.
Chadhill and okla In regards reply # 31, I believe okla means ‘Mt. Mariveles’ right of Mt. Samat, which he recognized correctly. As I stated in the paragraph above Mt. Bataan is a west peak of the Mt. Natib volcano complex, north-west from here and not south as where this picture in question looks. In that picture one can see the peak of Mt. Limay just to the left above Mt. Samat top.
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Post by chadhill on Jan 21, 2012 16:24:57 GMT 8
Okla, again you make good points. I thought the skull and crossbones might have been a unit flag, but your suggestion makes more sense.
Karl, good point about General Nara. I will make some posts on Nara and Masanobu Tsuiji in the future. But Mount Bataan is a high peak of Mariveles Mountain, not Mount Natib. It is just south of Pantingan Peak. Maybe you are speaking of Bataan Peak, SW of Mount Natib.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Jan 21, 2012 18:39:54 GMT 8
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Post by JohnEakin on Apr 11, 2012 23:20:38 GMT 8
I received an inquiry from a family member looking for information on Pvt Francis O'Donnell of Co L, 31st Inf Div who died on 24 Jan 42. All he knows is that he died in the Abucay Hacienda area.
Does anyone have any more specific information as to where this unit may have been located on 24 Jan 42?
Thanks,
John
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Post by okla on Apr 14, 2012 23:22:40 GMT 8
Hey John....I am sure you have this info, but Morrison's book "Bataan - Our Last Ditch", has detailed description of actions on 24 January 1942 and the withdrawal of Genl Parker's II Corps from the Abucay Line. Company L, 31st Infantry US is mentioned as is 3rd Battalion (along with all the other units involved). This soldier was right in the middle of the withdrawal and it would be no surprise that he was one of the causualties. As I have mentioned previously on this Forum, my Niece in Law's Grandfather was a member of both G and H Companies of the 31st and was up to his ear lobes in the Abucay action, including the withdrawal. Hope this might narrow down the exact position of L Company. Hope so anyhow. Cheers.
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