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Post by okla on Apr 21, 2011 21:20:04 GMT 8
Hey Fots....I await the new stuff with baited breath. A "fix", I am desperate for. Cheers. Postscript...If that "object" depicted in both the 1930 and 1945 photos is one and the same, then the pier also shown in these shots has been rearranged/rebuilt/relocted/etc, hasn't it? This kind of stuff runs me nuts, but I absolutely love it.
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Post by The Phantom on Apr 22, 2011 5:08:11 GMT 8
What I see in the 1930 photo............
The large building you see on the west side of Malinta Hill is # 285 on the 1936 map, or CIV. Q.M EMPLOYEES CI.V. (CIVILIAN) Q.M. (QUARTERMASTER) EMPLOYEES
The wide grand steps into that building are still there, as is the sidewalk in front of the building heading off into the thick jungle towards Malinta Tunnel. The kitchen foundation is still in the back as shown on the map but unseen on the photo. It appears the Q.M. building was a wooden structure based on the cement still in the area.
The small concrete foundations and some small concrete steps for the small buildings in front of the large building pictured, still exist today.
A few years ago that area was cut clean to the ground, and the foundations were all there to see and inspect, but now it has been allowed to revert to tall grasses. And the kudzu has now covered most of that area making it hard to explore there anytime other than the dry season, and even then........
The top of the hill immediately behind the Q.M building looks interesting. Is that a lone tall tree up there on a small flat plain, and if so then most of the trees up there are missing. Seems to be a lot less trees then. Today that is a forest, as is most of Malinta hill. I believe that is where Fots found some interesting old concrete struts.
And there is that pile of rocks in the harbor again, in the foreground by Engineers Dock, now missing. Those don't look like they just washed away.
Old photos, new adventures.............
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Post by chadhill on Apr 22, 2011 12:59:02 GMT 8
Fots, here's my best take on the rockpile near Engineer Wharf. First, I'll repost some photos that I've enlarged and cropped for clarity. Engineer Wharf 1930 (courtesy Fots2) Engineer Wharf 1945 (courtesy Fots2) The next photo, from the 1943 Japanese book "Philippine Expeditionary Force", I believe is of President Quezon's yacht, the Cassiana, which gradually sank in Corregidor Bay apparently somewhere between Battery Point and Engineer Wharf. According to several photos it seemed to have drifted before it finally submerged completely (see the Cassiana thread). I've always thought that the photo above was taken from Engineer Wharf, but could not explain the rocks (which I thought were a breakwater) since they are not there today. Thanks to your archival photos I see that there was a rock mound there during the war years. Looking at the damaged Engineer Wharf's edge in the bottom of the picture, I might even venture to say that it was taken from the position pointed out by a red arrow in the next photo: Sometime after 1945 the rock mound must have been dismantled. I'll bet they used the same stones to make a couple of "mini-breakwaters(?)" extending from the shore, seen in this aerial photo I took in 1986: Another view, more recent (courtesy Fots2): BTW, Okla and I would still like a bottle of Johnny Walker when you make that dive-- ;D
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Post by fots2 on Apr 22, 2011 16:09:37 GMT 8
That is excellent deduction there chadhill. Looks good to me. Thanks.
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Post by okla on Apr 22, 2011 23:57:58 GMT 8
Hey Guys....I am a true believer until a better theory arises. Cheers.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2011 5:06:55 GMT 8
Any chance the rockpile is to protect a water intake line to Bottomside?
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Post by fots2 on May 12, 2011 8:32:51 GMT 8
ironman, that certainly could be a possibility. Due to its location I wonder if the Power and Refrigeration plants had any use for salt water.
Another use for salt water on Corregidor was for fire fighting. Tanks for this are located in different areas.
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