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Post by Karl Welteke on Jan 1, 2018 11:16:58 GMT 8
Compare Grande Island 1999 pictures in the previous entry Za513. The Grande Island Hotel and Restaurant sign in 2004 That is how the ex Navy Morale, Welfare and Recreation (MWR) Hotel and Restaurant Sign on Grande Island looked in 2004. Za514. The Grande Island Hotel and Restaurant sign in 2006 That is how the ex Navy Morale, Welfare and Recreation (MWR) Hotel and Restaurant Sign on Grande Island looked in 2006.It is modified by the new Philippine Management. They had planed do make some other kind of water activity in that hole behind the tree, but it stopped at this condition so nothing came of it. Za515. The Grande Island ex MWR map on a piece of plywood still existed in 2006, marked up. This Grande Island ex MWR map on a piece of plywood still existed in 2006. It was standing where the Navy cottages were and were the new cottages are now. But after 2006 it disappeared. MWR stands for Navy Morale, Welfare and Recreation Department. I marked it up to indicate the sites of the subjects of this presentation. Za516. The Grande Island ex MWR map on a piece of plywood still existed in 2006. This Grande Island ex MWR map on a piece of plywood still existed in 2006. It was standing where the Navy cottages were and were the new cottages are now. But after 2006 it disappeared. MWR stands for Navy Morale, Welfare and Recreation Department. This is the unmarked copy. Za517. This is the Legend for the Grande Island ex MWR map on a piece of plywood in 2006. This Grande Island ex MWR map on a piece of plywood still existed in 2006. It was standing where the Navy cottages were and were the new cottages are now. But after 2006 it disappeared. MWR stands for Navy Morale, Welfare and Recreation Department. This is the unmarked copy. Za518. The ex Navy Grande Island Hotel is now renovated in 2006 by the new Philippine Management. The ex Navy Grande Island Hotel is now renovated in 2006 by the new Philippine Management. One can see the ex Navy Restaurant, now also renovated behind or thru the tree right of the hotel. Za519. A new Grande Island Communication building under the new Philippine Management in 2004. This new Grande Island Communication Building under the new Philippine Management was just being completed in 2004. Maybe it has connection with the development of the Subic Bay International Air Port on the former Us Navy Cubi Point Air Station. I believe the US Navy had a similar utility building at this site. This is also the general area where the Fort Wint Army Barracks stood, the concrete foundations are still there to see.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 15:33:47 GMT 8
Thanks Karl for the additional information some of my photos. Some members might be interested in the Gozar Air Station www.delahyde.com/lubang/pagesl/gozar_air_station.htmlwhich was partly manned by US Airforce personnel. Also I looked with interest at your updated photos and in particular the layout map. Am a bit clearer on where I went.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2018 15:49:50 GMT 8
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Post by Karl Welteke on Jul 17, 2018 13:43:18 GMT 8
Battery Warwick Guns are not forgotten. Zc278. Charlie Moser visited me at Subic Bay. Here we are on Mt. Cayuyag, north end of the bay of Subic Bay, and we see Grande Island about thumbs width left of my head. The other shipmate is a Korean-American and we all served in the Junk Boat Fleet (meaning the diving and salvage Navy). This is a 2015 image. He stated that he is invited by the Fort Casey Park service to attend the 50th anniversary of the ‘Big Guns” the two 10 inch guns from Battery Warwick on Grande Island, the former Fort Wint, arriving at Fort Casey Park. Why him? He was one of the Navy volunteers who labored 3 weeks to take those two guns apart on Grande Island for shipment to Washington State. He may be the last one alive who did it! He stated he wants to go to Grande Island to take some pictures of Battery Warwick for that event. I told him that the resort on Grande Island is closed and no boats are going there. We went to the boat landing anyway; by the way that was the former Officer Boat Landing during our Navy days. We were lucky and met the on-island resort manager and he said it would be ok to visit. So we have a plan to visit Grande Island on Friday the 20th July 2018. Charlie and I are long time ship mates and served together in 4 different commands. I always was fascinated that he was the one to help dismantle the two 10 inch guns. Zc279. Fort Casey State Park big guns 50th anniversary flyer from this URL: parks.state.wa.us/DocumentCenter/View/11543/Big-guns-50th-Anniversary-flyer?bidId=Zc280. Fort Casey big guns 50th anniversary notice from this URL: parks.state.wa.us/calendar.aspx?eid=4118From the URL below here I copied the text following it: parks.state.wa.us/civicalerts.aspx?aid=405Fort Casey celebrates 50th anniversary of ‘Big Guns’ arrival OLYMPIA – July 10, 2018 – The Washington State Parks and Recreation Commission and Fort Casey Historical State Park invite the public to attend the 50th anniversary celebration of the Big Guns at Fort Casey. The event will take place at 1:30 p.m. Saturday, Aug. 11, at Fort Casey Historical State Park, 1280 Engle Road, Coupeville. (Driving directions. The event will include displays and activities, park tours and a keynote address by Rep. Norma Smith, R-Clinton. Visitors also may tour the Admiralty Head Lighthouse and enjoy a picnic or hike at the park on event day. The event is free, though a Discover Pass is required for vehicle access to the park. The guns at Fort Casey have historical significance in that they are the only 10-inch disappearing guns in the United States and two of four left in the world. Disappearing guns, a technological marvel of the late 19th Century, were designed to recoil behind their concrete emplacements after firing. The guns at Fort Casey weigh 125 tons apiece. Fort Casey is one of three late 19th century military forts that made up the so-called “Triangle of Fire” to defend Puget Sound. The program this summer will follow a similar format to that of the original dedication ceremony, which took place on Aug. 11, 1968. The event will include the presentation of colors, music by the Army National Guard Band, a panel discussion with experts who helped to bring the guns to Fort Casey and demonstrations of the communications tools involved in using the guns. Light refreshments will be provided, and visitors can tour the guns on their own after the event. The guns were made in the 1890s. They replaced two guns of the same model and vintage, which were used at Fort Casey from 1902 to 1942. The original Fort Casey guns and carriages were scrapped for metal during World War II. In the late 1950s, after the fort had become a state park, efforts were made to acquire two of the last 10-inch disappearing guns, from Fort Wint on Subic Bay in the Philippine Islands. The acquisition took a decade to complete and was fraught with financial, political and logistical complications. Ultimately, the Washington State Legislature voted to finance the transfer, which proved perilous when the guns were tossed about the ship San Francisco during a freak storm at sea. The 1968 ceremony included Gov. Dan Evans, Sen. Henry “Scoop” Jackson, the Coupeville Lions’ Club and military officials and industry captains. During his speech at that dedication, Sen. Jackson called the acquisition, “a story of perseverance.” Zc281. Fort Casey 10 inch Disappearing gun, from Wikimedia Commons: commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fort_Casey_Disappearing_gun.jpgMore information from Wikipedia: The two 10-inch guns on disappearing carriages currently mounted at Fort Casey were transferred from the Philippines in the 1960s, along with two three-inch guns. The 10-inch guns are M1895MI (No. 26 and No. 28 Watervliet) on disappearing carriages M1901 (No. 13 and No. 15 Watertown) at Battery Worth, Fort Casey (originally at Battery Warwick, Fort Wint, Grande Island, Philippines). The three-inch guns are M1903 (No. 11 and No. 12) on barbette carriages M1903 (No. 6 and No. 7) at Battery Trevor, Fort Casey (originally at Battery Flake, Fort Wint).
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Post by rickthelibrarian on Jul 17, 2018 21:57:47 GMT 8
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Post by Karl Welteke on Jul 19, 2018 18:45:16 GMT 8
World History on Line Presents: Fort Casey Celebrates Big Guns’ 50th anniversary 2018 Aug 11. www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/fort-casey-celebrates-big-guns-50.htmlTo read the story, go to the above URL! All 8 pictures are from the above website. Photo courtesy of David Hansen, Photographer, World History on Line and Washington State Parks and Recreation Commission. Zc286. Fort Casey Celebrates Big Guns’ 50th anniversary 2018 Aug 11. Zc287. Fort Casey Celebrates Big Guns’ 50th anniversary 2018 Aug 11. Zc288. Fort Casey Celebrates Big Guns’ 50th anniversary 2018 Aug 11. Zc289. Fort Casey Celebrates Big Guns’ 50th anniversary 2018 Aug 11. Zc290. Fort Casey Celebrates Big Guns’ 50th anniversary 2018 Aug 11. Zc291. Fort Casey Celebrates Big Guns’ 50th anniversary 2018 Aug 11. Zc292. Fort Casey Celebrates Big Guns’ 50th anniversary 2018 Aug 11. Zc293. Fort Casey Celebrates Big Guns’ 50th anniversary 2018 Aug 11.
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Post by rickthelibrarian on Jul 19, 2018 21:52:28 GMT 8
Thanks for posting the additional pictures - as I said, I first went to Fort Casey as a college student in April, 1970. The park ranger was still the one who had participated in the program to obtain the guns was still there and we had a fascinating time talking with him on how this all came about.
I believe the two guns currently mounted at Battery Trevor were obtained in 1963. I always thought it ironic that the two tubes from the original 3" guns mounted at Trevor were sent to Corregidor in 1933!
I heard a story, doubt that it is true, that the only reason the two 6" guns at Fort Wint weren't obtained for Fort Casey was that they were covered with overgrowth.
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Post by beirutvet on Jul 19, 2018 22:35:46 GMT 8
Those ten" appear so pristine it looks like they could still be fired today!
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Post by Karl Welteke on Jul 20, 2018 19:28:45 GMT 8
Battery Warwick, ex Ft. Wint on Grande Island 2018-07-20 Because of the Fort Casey Big Guns 50th Anniversary we visited Grande Island and took some pictures. My friend Charlie Moser helped take the 10 inch guns apart 50 years ago and will join the 50 year anniversary at Ft. Casey State Park. The first resort on Grande Island failed, my opinion, and is now controlled by new investors from Mainland China. The new General Manager, a 2nd generation Filipino-Chinese, David Du, took us around. I contribute much to a web page of Fort Wint on Grande Island and our hosts were very much interested in our history about this island and this battery. I established an album with 15 images in my Flickr account and this is the URL: www.flickr.com/photos/44567569@N00/albums/72157693455868950Zc294. A Fort Wint 1921 map. Zc295. This is the rear of Battery Warwick on the 20th July 2018. On top is a radar device, it is being used by the Olongapo Air Port and we see the operator returning to his watch station. Zc296. The end of the parapet around the #1 Gun area of Battery Warwick is leaning out badly, photo 2018-07-20. Zc297. We are looking at the radar installation on top of Battery Warwick from #1 Gun area, the people are from right to left: Charlie Moser, David Du-general Manager, by luck he was on the island today, Chris the son of the General Manager and the last person at left is the on-island manager Christopher Andrada. Charlie Moser helped dismantle the guns for shipment to the Fort Casey Washington State Park 50 years ago. He volunteered for the job and it took 3 weeks. Zc298. This is the #2 Gun area of Battery Warwick of the ex Fort Wint on Grande Island, 2018-07-20. Zc299. This is the #1 Gun area of Battery Warwick of the ex Fort Wint on Grande Island, 2018-07-20.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Jul 22, 2018 13:24:13 GMT 8
ex Fort Wint on Grande Island Visit with Charlie 2018-07-20 First segment of 8 images. Zc301. Battery Flake, 3 inch guns, 4 gun battery, Fort Wint on Grande Island in Subic Bay 2018-07-20. Because of the Fort Casey Big Guns 50th Anniversary on the 11th of Aug. 2018 we visited Grande Island and took some pictures. My friend Charlie Moser helped take the 10 inch guns apart 50 years ago and will join the 50 year anniversary at Ft. Casey State Park. The first resort on Grande Island failed, my opinion, and is now controlled by new investors from Mainland China. The new General Manager, a 2nd generation Filipino-Chinese, David Du, took us around. I contribute much to a web page of Fort Wint on Grande Island and our hosts were very much interested in our history about this island and this battery. They have big plans but when will they come to fruition-who knows? We did not have enough time to make a comprehensive image coverage. Battery Warwick is covered separately in an album in my Flickr account. Here is the URL: www.flickr.com/photos/44567569@N00/albums/72157693455868950Zc302. Battery Flake, 3 inch guns, 4 gun battery, Fort Wint on Grande Island in Subic Bay 2018-07-20. The new General Manager, David Du, gave us a personal tour and asked a lot of questions about the history. We started out at Battery Flake. Zc303. Battery Hall, 6 inch gun, 2 gun battery, No.1 Gun, Fort Wint on Grande Island in Subic Bay 2018-07-20. In the picture is the new General Manager, a 2nd generation Filipino-Chinese David Du and his son. Zc304. Battery Hall, 6 inch gun, 2 gun battery, No.1 Gun, Fort Wint on Grande Island in Subic Bay 2018-07-20. This view is from the area of No 2 Gun. The first resort on Grande Island failed, new Mainland Chinese investors are in control now, but when will it be complete, unknown. Zc305. Battery Hall, 6 inch gun, 2 gun battery, No.2 Gun, Fort Wint on Grande Island in Subic Bay 2018-07-20. Zc306. The former Fort Wint Power Plant on Grande Island, Subic Bay and now part of a new resort investment, which is not open yet and it is under the jurisdiction of the Subic Bay Freeport Zone (SBFZ) , the former U.S. Naval Base. Zc307. The Mining Casemate, notice all the doors and windows are closed with bricks, one hole was made thru the bricks; what will we see? Zc308. The Mining Casemate, notice all the doors and windows are closed with bricks. This opening, one out of two, is one of the tunnel runs for the mine cables to run out to the mines. Zc309. Looking thru that opening, thru the brick work that closed all the windows and doors, well, the armored steel doors and window seem to be still in place. This is the mining Casemate on Fort Wint, Grande Island, and SBFZ. Zc310. The break-water at the north-west corner of Grande Island, the former Fort Wint. Today, the 20th of July 2018; it was a very rainy day and the sea was choppy, swells were coming into Subic Bay from the south west.
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