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Post by fots2 on Nov 20, 2011 0:31:08 GMT 8
Hi okla,
Thank-you for confirming what the activity in the water to the left of the ship really was. That is an interesting photo.
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Post by fireball on Nov 22, 2011 21:36:01 GMT 8
Following a return trip to the island I managed to see some more sites, including the Magazine which is not for those with a fear of getting trapped underground with its very tight entrance and half destroyed ceiling. There was also a toad and large gecko type lizard inside which is a reminder that snakes may be present - given that entry requires sliding feet first into an unseen area this is particular worry! I found a number of other structures which do not appear to have been shown in the previous postings but it will take me some time to work out where exactly they were, what they might have been and if they are just different perspectives of 'known' buildings. With the island being so overgrown this image (taken within the building) may give an idea of how hard it is to see man made objects against the mass of small trees, bushes and other plants. Referring back to previous posts: The magazine (like the Battery Warwick magazine) had an inner bar door: On the question of the removal of the JE of Battery Jewell, there are red crosses, triangles and lettering found in various places on the island (including Battery Jewell) which are associated with esotericism and (due to the placement of some of them) the performance of rituals. There may or may not be a connection.
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Post by fots2 on Nov 23, 2011 0:00:58 GMT 8
Hey fireball,
It looks like you had a good trip there again. Thanks for the information.
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Post by fireball on Nov 25, 2011 19:50:27 GMT 8
so far my building identification has stalled but I am seeking a bit more information:
- Does anyone have a map showing the Fort Wint / Subic Bay minefields?
- On the maps, what do the small shields (No.1 & 2) on the southern tip of the island signify?
Thanks
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Post by fots2 on Nov 25, 2011 22:56:58 GMT 8
I do not have any Subic Bay minefield maps.
The #1 and #2 shields with a "60" in each of them are symbols for 60-inch seacoast searchlights.
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Post by fireball on Nov 26, 2011 7:39:08 GMT 8
Thanks fots, so now for the next question:
Does anyone have (or is it posted here) the typical layout of coastal defence search light batteries ?
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Post by chadhill on Nov 29, 2011 11:24:38 GMT 8
Japanese soldiers transit Subic Bay during the Bataan campaign. Za339. Japanese soldiers transit Subic Bay during the Bataan campaign. From "Philippine Expeditionary Force", published in occupied Manila, 1943. English photo caption is taped into the book. 2017-10-25 Note from Karl: This picture has been restored as of this date! It was blocked by Photobucket because they changed their terms and caused a lot of damage to many of their customers. It is now hosted at another server!
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Post by chadhill on Nov 29, 2011 13:04:10 GMT 8
While I was stationed in Subic during the 1980s, I did not have a copy of the USN 1944 photo of the Oryoku Maru being attacked. Shown here again, it is rotated for comparison with the chart that follows. The POWs can be seen swimming from the ship, toward the shore. The tennis court that the POWs were locked up in for six days is shown by the red arrow. While at Subic in the 1980s I heard that the tennis court had been located near the Subic Officer's Club, shown on this 1977 chart by the blue arrow. I searched the heavily built up area but was unable to find any remains of the old tennis court. With the help of the 1944 photo, it is easy to see that the tennis court was actually slightly inland. This would seem to be approximately where the base chapel is located on the 1977 chart, as depicted by the red arrow. Very appropriate, if true. * * * * * * * Subic Bay, 1945. One of PATWING 10's PBYs shot up on December 12, 1941?
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Post by okla on Nov 29, 2011 21:51:55 GMT 8
Hey Chad....Thanks for posting. This is good stuff. I can hardly believe that our little friends from the north would have let that shot up "Catboat" linger thru the war years, escaping salvage. You would think they would have stripped it for the aluminum, wouldn't you??? It does appear that the engines are gone, but the thrifty Nipponese have left the "skin", maybe for later removal. Cheers.
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Post by chadhill on Dec 1, 2011 14:02:22 GMT 8
Sharp eye, okla. Looks like they snared the outboard wing sections, rudder and elevators, too. According to reports seven PBYs were lost that day. Here is a photo of the area in 1948. Seems it was built up quickly after the war: Here's a picture of the Subic naval base chapel in 1948. Today it is known as the San Roque chapel. I wonder if there would be any monuments nearby about the POWs of the Oryoku Maru.
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