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Post by Karl Welteke on Nov 27, 2008 17:27:29 GMT 8
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Post by buster on Nov 27, 2008 23:55:06 GMT 8
Great series of pics there, Karl. You are really getting the "eye" for good pictures.
Particularly good pic of those three aircraft - the two flying boats and the Neptune. Well found!
Though I liked the albums when they weren't broken into smaller chapters, so that I could sit back and run the lot of them. Is that something Photobucket is requiring now?
From time to time, people ask what is on Caballo and express the view that they wished they could get to see it. Well, your albums are a good answer to both.
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Post by Karl Welteke on Dec 5, 2008 10:00:32 GMT 8
Hello Buster
I'll keep you suggestion in mind.
Some people, though, like to look at images in smaller batches.
Karl
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2009 4:43:55 GMT 8
Karl:
I visited Caballo Island in 2006. My uncle is buried there somewhere. He was a navy man from the USS Oahu and they all went ashore to man the batteries around April 10 1942. He was killed by a bomber on April 17 1942 and all remaining men were captured May 6 1942. The captain of his ship buried him and he writes in his diary that he buried him on the 'Parade Ground'. Do you have any idea where the Parade Ground is?
Loved your pictures. Are you going back?
Dr. Wes Shoop
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Post by fots2 on May 23, 2009 9:39:04 GMT 8
amarcianae, Karl is currently visiting a remote part of his wife’s province and has no internet connection. I think he will be back in a week or so. I’ll let him know about your post in case it gets buried. Sorry I cannot tell you exactly where the parade ground was as I have not been lucky enough to get on that island yet. It almost certainly would have been on the flatter eastern end but I am sure you already know that. Perhaps someone on the board can help you. Good luck.  |
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Post by batteryboy on May 26, 2009 7:45:51 GMT 8
Dear Dr. Shoop
Technically there is no parade ground on Fort Hughes as the official parade ground for all the island forts is the one at topside located at Fort Mills, Corregidor Island. The only possible flat area where troops can regard as a parade ground on Fort Hughes would be the eastern area, from Battery Leach all the way to searchlight and to the location of Battery Williams.
May I know which unit your uncle was manning at Fort Hughes?
Cheers,
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2009 10:56:09 GMT 8
Karl:
The USS Oahu men were assigned to three Batteries: Fuger (to protect against landings on the East side of the island, Hooker (to protect the Bay), and Williams (to protect South Channel). My uncle, Wm. George Jamison, MM1C, was assigned to Battery Williams. He was killed April 17 1942 on his way to watch. I assume his watch was near Battery Williams but that may not be the case. The skipper of the Oahu, Lt. Cmdr. D.E. Smith wrote in his journal that he buried him on the 'Parade Ground'. I have been confounded by this and no one can define what this area is--including the commandant of the Philippine Naval group there. My great fear is that his idea of a Parade Ground may be where the fresh water pond is now. It is my understanding from interviewing some of the other men from the USS Oahu that this fresh water pond was not there during the fighting. If that is the area then that would complicate, if not outright destroy, any chance of a recovery. Any ideas are most welcome.
I have more precise directions for several other men buried on the island and am trying to get JPAC involved. It is a long shot, but so was finding the skipper's diary.
Regards,
Wes
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Post by batteryboy on May 26, 2009 11:13:26 GMT 8
Karl: The USS Oahu men were assigned to three Batteries: Fuger (to protect against landings on the East side of the island, Hooker (to protect the Bay), and Williams (to protect South Channel). My uncle, Wm. George Jamison, MM1C, was assigned to Battery Williams. He was killed April 17 1942 on his way to watch. I assume his watch was near Battery Williams but that may not be the case. The skipper of the Oahu, Lt. Cmdr. D.E. Smith wrote in his journal that he buried him on the 'Parade Ground'. I have been confounded by this and no one can define what this area is--including the commandant of the Philippine Naval group there. My great fear is that his idea of a Parade Ground may be where the fresh water pond is now. It is my understanding from interviewing some of the other men from the USS Oahu that this fresh water pond was not there during the fighting. If that is the area then that would complicate, if not outright destroy, any chance of a recovery. Any ideas are most welcome. I have more precise directions for several other men buried on the island and am trying to get JPAC involved. It is a long shot, but so was finding the skipper's diary. Regards, Wes Hi Wes, this is Tony, not Karl The fresh water pond (or lake) was always there even before during the conflict. I think I responded to an email several weeks or a couple of months ago highlighting areas where Battery Williams was located and where your uncle must be possibly buried. Its with an email thread that I replied to EXO when he asked for the same information. Battery Fuger is located at the slope of the hill. Like I mentioned earlier, the only place flat that is possible for the parade would be the eastern portion of the island starting in front of Battery Leach near the fresh water lake to the areas of the searchlight, all the way to the AA mounts and Battery Williams. The area right now is the site of the ammo magazine of the Philippine Navy and is off limits to civilians. You may have noticed these concrete structures during your trip to the island. The area has been bulldozed several times thru the years. I will check on the graves registration details during the siege and after the retaking of Fort Hughes and will be glad to share with you whatever I find. Cheers, Tony aka Battery Boy |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2009 21:10:36 GMT 8
Tony:
Thank you for the information. I have just joined this website so I was unfamiliar with your email showing where Battery Williams was located. I will try to look it up.
I know on the map of Caballo Island the fresh water pond (lake) is drawn even on the 1921 edition. But in speaking with Doug Northam, a USS Oahu man that was there during the siege, he could not remember it. That surprised me because it is hard to miss. So that is why I wondered aloud as to whether it was actually there during the siege period prior to May 6 1942.
I would be greatly appreciative of any graves registration details during the siege or after the retaking of the Islands. Doug Northam tells me right after the siege, the Japanese forced him to form a burial unit and he buried several men killed on the last day, including another Oahu man JL Harris. Harris apparently had won $600 the night before in a poker game and Northam said the Japanese made him bury Harris with the money still in his pocket. Northam had indicated on the map that the mass burial grave was at the northwest corner of where the freshwater pond is now.
Regards,
Wes
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Post by batteryboy on May 27, 2009 7:30:54 GMT 8
Hi Wes, If that is the case, then JL Harris was buried just at the back of the old torpedo sotrage depots. That area right now is laid with concrete. A lot of that part of Caballo has changed thru the years due to Navy'c construction of new building facilities and roads. I'll get back to you if I find something on the graves registration. Here is the map on the possible area of the "parade ground"  Photo Courtesy of FOTS. Cheers, |
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