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Post by beirutvet on Apr 6, 2017 22:32:14 GMT 8
Wow!
Would you look at that picture. So many Heritage Battalion heavyweights in one shot.
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Post by beirutvet on Apr 4, 2017 0:36:55 GMT 8
Toss up question;
Can anyone give me the definitive dimensions of Malinta Tunnel? I was always under the impression that it was 832' long, 18' tall and 24' wide.
The reason that I ask this is that I recently went on a book buying jag and picked up about a dozen books on Corregidor from Amazon. I got incredible buys as the whole bunch ran me less than $50.00. One book was only $0.44. I paid more in shipping than the cost of the books for most of them.
But I have now come across 4 of these books that list the length of Malinta tunnel as 1400'. As best as I can figure out, they are getting that figure from Wainwright's book. I can see how that inaccuracy might persist in that they are citing General Jonathan M Wainwright who would undoubtedly qualify as creditable source. Most of these books were written before the age of the internet and would have to rely on source documents, writings, interviews, etc. Can anyone confirm that this is the source of the misinformation? Has anyone else come across this discrepancy in other publications?
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Post by beirutvet on Apr 3, 2017 23:27:19 GMT 8
Karl
Yes, I had seen this post of yours before about 6 weeks ago.
THEN I had seen Pierce's post and his picture showed, and as he said there was no inscription. I got my timelines screwed up, sorry, my fault there.
So glad to see everything is as it should be. Breathing a sigh of relief now.
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Post by beirutvet on Apr 3, 2017 0:15:35 GMT 8
Hey Fots
Hope all is well with you.
Something that I would appreciate some info on is the one M 1890 gun that is closest to the road (not having the live round in it). It appears in the photos that it may still be in its original position in pit A. Can you confirm this? My pics do not lend a hand at verification, I was wondering if yours do or if you have visually inspected it and found it in its original spot. There seems to be so much concrete and refuse all around it that I guess you would have to be standing right on top of it to be sure. What do you think?
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Post by beirutvet on Mar 30, 2017 23:40:02 GMT 8
Hey Pierce
What were the dates of your 11 day trip?
Was there a mosquito issue?
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Post by beirutvet on Mar 29, 2017 21:18:05 GMT 8
Pierce Fabulous presentation from start to finish! Posts like yours are the next best thing to being there. Are you planning on going back anytime soon? I was curious as to why there were no inscriptions on the monument for the first flag pole. Did you talk to anyone about them? Have they been stolen by scrappers? Are they being cleaned/reconditioned? It is painful to think that no sooner does this monument go up, someone comes along and desecrates it like this. (I hope I can answer this one now, so as to lay any concern to rest. Corregidor Foundation Inc. and their personnel under Ron Benadero, and Steve & Marcia Kwiecinski did a great job with this project. Pierce just may have caught it in the course of being constructed. (I was there November 2016 with Karl Welteke & Mark Broekhuizen and it was virgo intacta, fully completed with all plaques installed. It did catch me by surprise.) Yes, the memorial is "after" the Death March markers, a natural decision which made things both significant and more economic on the Judy Family, its sponsors. See the completed memorial and the photos of its construction here. It is a fitting tribute to the "First Flag" and the men of the 503d PRCT and I am particularly pleased it is becoming known by that name.- EXO) Enough of the soap box, back to your post. I got a chuckle out of your caption stating that you went to the top of Battery Crockett to get "a shot" of the battery control. It looks like it had already taken "a shot", maybe more than one. What do you think, 1942 or 1945,,,, or both? I was especially excited to see those pictures of Battery Wheeler. I think I would like to go explore that one on my next trip there. I am guessing that it is not on the regular tour. Although overgrown a bit, it looked like it was in reasonable shape. On my first trip there (guided tour) we were taken to Battery Grubbs. My second trip, on the tour, they took us to Battery Crockett. On my next trip Batteries Wheeler, Ramsey, Morrison and James are definitely on the agenda. And what can be said of your coverage of Battery Geary other than 'Well Done'. Sure, Battery Way and Battery Hearn are highlights of any tour for the history that went down there, and I will always visit them. But there is something so compelling about the tragedy that is Geary that makes me want to spend an inordinate amount of time there (I visited it twice in 4 days). And neither of the two guided tours I was on stopped there. It was not until my second trip (4 days) that I was able to take the time to go there. The first tour was the only one that eluded to it. They stopped on the road above and said "look down there" and gave a brief explanation. When I got home and did some research I learned what it had looked like before the end came. Those pictures you had of the "treehouse", though are the things that bring us back. They are haunting pictures, are they not? It is difficult to describe the feelings one has when tracing footsteps in places that were once so vibrant and alive, but are now just tomb-quiet ruins that are only visited by a few intrepid explorers like yourself, fots2, Karl, EXO, etal. By the way, my wife is now angry with you because I announced that like Pierce, I want to spend 10 days on The Rock on our next trip to the Philippines. But not to worry, she'll get over it. She knows what that place does to guys like us.
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Post by beirutvet on Mar 28, 2017 9:08:54 GMT 8
T2
We all will expect a full report,,,,,,,, with photos, of course.
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Post by beirutvet on Mar 26, 2017 21:50:37 GMT 8
Hey Karl
I hope you are still bookmarking this thread and will see my post here since it has been a couple of years since you started this thread.
May I please draw your attention to photo W283 (F4), dated 1923/4/16. When I see the old photos like this one I like to see how many points of interest I can locate/places I have been. Am I off on my bearings or is Cine Corregidor not yet built? Do you know off hand when it was built?
Also something that I have wondered about but never asked so I guess this is as good a place to put up this question. I have seen pictures of the Cine when it was first built and it was a perfect rectangle. Some time later they added that rounded, half moon shaped ticket counter/box office type of structure in the front. I call it that for that is what it resembles, it may have had another function but I think it is a good SWAG. Do you know when this was added?
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Post by beirutvet on Mar 24, 2017 21:26:48 GMT 8
Getting back on topic about the pool.
Yes, there was probably some training that went on there,,,, but I believe we are overthinking this. Remember fellas, this is the tropics, and a dip in any size pool would have been a Godsend to any poor chap that just got off duty that included being out in the sun in the middle of April.
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Post by beirutvet on Mar 18, 2017 20:02:32 GMT 8
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